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ScKsTeR
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harisu male or female?

i dunno if u ppl heard but i hear that harisu is attempting to legally be a female......i saw this on the newspaper n she (or should i still say he???) appeared without clothes (of course covering the body parts with arms and such) what do u ppl think bout this???

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Harisu is a female. After undergoing surgery, she is now more female than male, that means she is a 'she.'

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hmmm is that so??? i dunno....i still consider it a dude no matter how pretty

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she was male before
now shes a female


man.. can you imaging your self changing your sex?
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I think that no matter what you change physically you are still the same person on the inside. If a woman gets implants does that make her a super woman? I don't think so. Sure she might get more attention and therefore make her feel better, but she's still a woman, a BIG headed woman Plus would any man want to be with a woman that was a man before? , but that's just my two cents. Everybody has their own opinion.

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i agreed with neomatrix. lets say u were a dude and u cut yur private off and grew some breasts. does that make u a female?? i disagree... of course this is my opinion

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harisu doesnt have girl organs though right..? heh ^^; she just has the appearance of a girl right..? heh..=X sorry im not relaly into this thing. -__-

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quote:
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harisu doesnt have girl organs though right..? heh ^^; she just has the appearance of a girl right..? heh..=X sorry im not relaly into this thing. -__-


haha yeah im pretty sure she doesnt have girl organs. she just has the appearance of a girl. i say they make her a legal female if she can get pregnant .
btw, there was a thread like this.

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voice = male
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interesting... you guys pointed out some really good points... iono, I guess she is female physically... I never really thought about some of the things that you guys pointed out! But all the things that you guys pointed out makes me think that she is still a man...

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i'm fairly positive she underwent a few operations that would lend themselves to what is known as a "sex-change." That means that she's female. She might not have all female organs, but she is more female than she is male. She also took hormone supplements from a young age so that she would be more effeminate, and that started the development of her feminine features. I wonder if she's stopped taking hormones, I would think that she has, because I believe if one induces an imbalance of hormones, then the body continues to produce hormones in that fashion, I'm not entirely sure though.

Please stop referring to her as "it."

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quote:
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i say they make her a legal female if she can get pregnant .


That's a really stupid legal standard, and it's also offensive. I'm sure you mean that she must have working female organs to be classified as a woman, but what about women who've had a histerectomy or a woman who can't bear a child, under your standard they wouldn't be a woman.

On purely gender terms, harisu is a female, while on terms of sex she may not be 100%, but again, on terms of sex she's still more woman than man.

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neither, its an it.

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but still, she has a mind of a man. and sorry for getting you offended on my previous post. called sarcasm. dont take it too seriously.

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quote:
Originally posted by K_BoI323
voice = male
body =female



-edit- nevermind i thought this was in a different thread.

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but still, she has a mind of a man. and sorry for getting you offended on my previous post. called sarcasm. dont take it too seriously.


i think you were partially serious.

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i think this standard people seem to be agreeing with is utterly stupid. Come on now, the "mind of a man"? Wow, let's have a subjectivity contest here, see who can think of the most amount of ways to classify subjectively gender.

How do you know she even has a mind of a man? If she wanted to be a woman all her life, most likely i would classify that as being the mind of a woman. As people like Wendy someone, anyway some composer of the baroque era, underwent a sex change and felt that he was trapped in a man's body all his life. Is that a man's mind then? And basically, finally what exactly is the mind of a man? haha, no one knows what any of you are tlaking about exactly...is it someone born in a physicality of a man? someone's mind who thinks "masculine"? or something more subjective? Let's be clear people.

It's so subjective it's stupid. Sorry, i get really tired of all the ignorance, bigotry, and normative views i see all the time about her. Harisu is a female, of course. If not tell me a good definition of a female that makes her not and all other women, including those with special instances, that make them all women and her not. It's so absurd. Stop being so prideful about being in the norm, it's not that great.

If any of you want some crediibility, i would recommend you define whatever you are talking about, cause saying something like "she has the mind of a man" is sooo subjective, i don't see hwo you can post and that and not bother to elaborate, heh, well i can i guess. Anwyay, don't want to be mean, but put an end to your fascist mentality for once and stop being so stupid.

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i agreed with neomatrix. lets say u were a dude and u cut yur private off and grew some breasts. does that make u a female?? i disagree... of course this is my opinion


no that makes you a castrated male with breasts. That's not what makes her female either. What makes her female is her genitalia.

I don't agree with neomatrix. What defines the sex of a person from the "inside"? I can't tell, waht is it? It's not about her having breasts, that's stupid, it's about her genitalia being female, hence sex change.

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Anyway i really don't like it when people call her an it, it's really offensive. I agree with tommy.

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i think you were partially serious.


thats what you think. how are you so sure that i was serious? do you even know me? did you hear me say it? did you see me say it? obviously not. how can you tell?. i dont care what you guys say. i still think harisu's a male.of course, its my opinion.

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