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Crazydeb8ter
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Flowing on the Laptop

Any of you tried that (debaters)?

It's a puzzling idea for me, when you stand up to give you speech, per se the 1nr; if the judge wants you to give it from a podium, then you can't really take the laptop with you (the cord), so are you going to use your partner's flow? Seems like a bad idea to me because your partner may have a different flowing and marking style than you, and also, he may suck a lot more than you= bare bones flow.

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what da hell are u talkin about

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same thing im wondering... :huh:

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yea same here..no idea watsoever

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he's talking about policy debate, like actual scholastic debate that occurs in secondary schools and colleges in the united states. Flowing is just jargon for taking notes, i.e. noting your opponents arguments.

Flowing with your laptop is stupid to do in a round I think, unless you're judging or just watching a round. I wouldn't want to use my laptop for it, It would seem rather inconvenient. On a positive note, if you have terrible penmanship like me, other people would be able to read your flows haha.
I've never tried doing it while participating in a round, paper works much better in my opinion.

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oh geebus... i feel the brains floating around in this thread... haha no wonder your so adament on your opinions and ways of giving your opinion vic... i didn't know you were an actual debater... haha... i can't stand anything near an argument... lets just say i get too passionate HAHA... id rather be a motivational speaker...

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quote:
Originally posted by TyGer STyLe
i didn't know you were an actual debater...


were is right haha i quit last year...
i'm considering of rejoining the team senior year; get back into the action per se...

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Originally posted by tm11
Flowing with your laptop is stupid to do in a round I think, unless you're judging or just watching a round. I wouldn't want to use my laptop for it, It would seem rather inconvenient. On a positive note, if you have terrible penmanship like me, other people would be able to read your flows haha.
I've never tried doing it while participating in a round, paper works much better in my opinion.



heres what I heard from Mike burshteyn (CPS A, won a couple rounds at the TOC, also the friend of one of my classmates [what a privelege to know such a great debater]) about flowing on the laptop:

(copied and pasted from c-x.com)

"it's cool because every speech i give becomes blox for the future, i have intelligence on every round effortlessly, and i can cut/paste cards and blocks INTO my flows, making speeches a lot less messy. and i type faster and more neatly than i write..."

I find that in more higher levels, the judges don't care, or prefer people to give their speeches from their seats (last time i watched him, he went to the podium for his speeches). So upper tier debaters don't really run into the problem of moving around their laptop.

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bleh...debate team...
they kicked me off cuz i sucked.

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quote:
Originally posted by Crazydeb8ter


heres what I heard from Mike burshteyn (CPS A, won a couple rounds at the TOC, also the friend of one of my classmates [what a privelege to know such a great debater]) about flowing on the laptop:

(copied and pasted from c-x.com)

"it's cool because every speech i give becomes blox for the future, i have intelligence on every round effortlessly, and i can cut/paste cards and blocks INTO my flows, making speeches a lot less messy. and i type faster and more neatly than i write..."

I find that in more higher levels, the judges don't care, or prefer people to give their speeches from their seats (last time i watched him, he went to the podium for his speeches). So upper tier debaters don't really run into the problem of moving around their laptop.



yeah I've heard those points and still don't really care for them, If I want a block to a position then I can just type it up or write it, it really isn't difficult, and it's not hard to remember the arguments on the fly either.
Sitting down is silly. It seems that you'd be able to breathe better standing up, and people who do it are only copying the badass debaters of years past , It looks bad perceptually and it looks silly as well, but hey, to each his own... it's all good.

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