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face the ass , i think you just need a good noogie. let me show you my drunken tiger.

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uh ok? I forgot this existed... I just wanted to vent off... jeeze... sorrie I got you so worked up?


btw, none of you know me enough to say that I haven't been through anything with boys... I don't see why what I said is so offensive to you all... I was just venting... and if you did know me in person, you'd understand me and know what I've been through with boys... and I tell you, I HAVE been through a lot with boys...

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ummmmm not 2 be mean but yea u could hav gone through alot but so hav others. and ummmm wat did u want us 2 say?
kudos.....im confused...but i agree wit psytek, if there is a problem most likely in this case its somethin 2 do wit u

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Originally posted by Ladi Jay
btw, none of you know me enough to say that I haven't been through anything with boys... I don't see why what I said is so offensive to you all... I was just venting... and if you did know me in person, you'd understand me and know what I've been through with boys... and I tell you, I HAVE been through a lot with boys...

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:sleepy: oh geez... i know where this is going... haha geez... these two are always buttin heads... haha... it is pretty funny tho...

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face the ass, theres no point in arguin with psytek. in my opinion you will never win. but instead how about i break wind while you face the ass and tell me what stirrin. d=)

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you actually have the nerve to continually try convincing us that you've been through a lot with boys? please, you haven't even been through puberty yet, for all we know.

jay, face the facts. seriously.
you haven't been through jack, drama queen... and we DON'T have to know you in real life to know that, got it? basically, that's because the way you talk about yourself in these forums clearly reflects the personality you have that people in real life have the misfortune of getting to know. you're a little girl who thinks she's a part of a real-life drama... that's all you are. Since i feel obligated to throw in a benefit of a doubt somewhere in this post, i'll immediately apologize if you counter-reply saying something along the lines of how you just got proposed to by a 23 year old man who's desperate enough to marry a ego-inflated girl like you, but if that's not the case, then quit your bitchin'.

there are people in the world right now that are facing serious trials and tribulations in relationships and love, and i'm certainly not the only one when i say that your sitting here making a mockery of those struggling people out there by categorizing your teenage past experiences with guys as some sort of hardship that compares with those of grown adults.

if you want to vent next time, try http://www.WeLoveToHearLittleDramaQueenGirlsWhine.com. ok?

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can I ask you what I said that was so offensive to you? I didn't post this up for entertainment, for pity, or any other reason... I just simply wanted to vent off and figure out why I am the way I am right now... is that wrong? I didn't think so... you make me sound like a conceited person and you act as if you know me enough to top my parents off... you don't know me so quit assuming things and thinking things that aren't even true about me... I don't base any of your personalities on just your posts... but whatever, what I say you won't believe because you seem to think that you're always right and I'm always wrong... whatever...

just one thing, get to know me in person before you actually assume things about me... and no matter how many times I tell you that I've been through a lot and enough with boys, you won't believe me so I won't even bother... if you even bother to get to know me, you'll see that I'm not all naive about situations like this...

and what makes you think that you are such the love doctor? what you say is logical and anyone can think of relationships and love in the way you do... mebbe not me but I just don't take things like this seriously anymore because I'VE BEEN THROUGH A LOT!

btw, mebbe you need to change your character too... you're so pessimistic and negative about everything... be happy, smile a little... see things in a brighter angle...

that's all I have to say... I'm taking what you say to heart and consideration because I want to cope... I really don't know why you're hating on all the things that I post in here...

again, what I posted was not for entertainment or anything... I was actually trying to reach out and get some help... so instead of critisizing me for the little things, at least help? thank you

oh, one last thing... you assume things way way too much... telling others to face the facts... mebbe you need to know your facts instead of assuming... get the drift?


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can I ask you what I said that was so offensive to you? I didn't post this up for entertainment, for pity, or any other reason... I just simply wanted to vent off and figure out why I am the way I am right now... is that wrong? I didn't think so... you make me sound like a conceited person and you act as if you know me enough to top my parents off... you don't know me so quit assuming things and thinking things that aren't even true about me... I don't base any of your personalities on just your posts... but whatever, what I say you won't believe because you seem to think that you're always right and I'm always wrong... whatever...

just one thing, get to know me in person before you actually assume things about me... and no matter how many times I tell you that I've been through a lot and enough with boys, you won't believe me so I won't even bother... if you even bother to get to know me, you'll see that I'm not all naive about situations like this...

and what makes you think that you are such the love doctor? what you say is logical and anyone can think of relationships and love in the way you do... mebbe not me but I just don't take things like this seriously anymore because I'VE BEEN THROUGH A LOT!

btw, mebbe you need to change your character too... you're so pessimistic and negative about everything... be happy, smile a little... see things in a brighter angle...

that's all I have to say... I'm taking what you say to heart and consideration because I want to cope... I really don't know why you're hating on all the things that I post in here...

again, what I posted was not for entertainment or anything... I was actually trying to reach out and get some help... so instead of critisizing me for the little things, at least help? thank you

oh, one last thing... you assume things way way too much... telling others to face the facts... mebbe you need to know your facts instead of assuming... get the drift?


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again, why do you say your looking for help?

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hmm yea i would agree with this part. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you were trying to vent, julie, but i must add that the intention for your post to be a vent was voided once you started asking for help or asking for others to give you advice upon your situation.





btw: "mebbe" you're bi, who knows. That other side of your might be coming out

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I've been through so much with boys that now... I'm just not attracted to anyone I see... I may think they're cute but I don't want to get to know them or anything... what's happened to me? Ever since this passed summer, I've had no interest whatsoever in any guy that approached me or any guy that I've talk to... it's wierd because I'm just not interested...any help?

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face the ass, and lemme bangoo in yo face!

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criticism doesn't help shape the criticized, it only shapes the criticisizer

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WOW THEN, lets forget all the things teachers do to edit our papers. Lets just ignore people when they tell you not to do something that is stupid, people who get critisized don't rethink their actions after criticism anyways. THE WHOLE POINT OF CRITICISM IS TO help someone improve or give them another viewpoint. That is "shaping" as you put it, regardless of whether one decides to take the criticism or not. And to generalize and say that all people who get criticized don't get shaped? WTF?

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perhaps she means "constructive critism" with the emphisis on constructive... i mean whats the point of pointing out one's problems without giving feed back as to help the improve their situation... then theres really no point in critisizing then yah knoe? also there are ways to critisize without being offensive... its just some people... ya gotta be a lil more firm with... still if people make the same mistake even when you give them advice and critism, you can't do much now can you?

hMm... shes no longer with us... so i think this is pretty pointless now... im sure she atleast got something out of all of this debating... in all these threads, it almost seems like they enjoyed the constant arguing... haha... atleast what i think...

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That instead of criticizing, helping and good feedback helps.

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I interpreted the statement in its purist form, which was: "criticism doesn't help shape the criticized, it only shapes the criticisizer." It is better to think about a statement based on givens rather than presumptions.

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Remember this is not debate. This is love and dating.
And recall that lady Jay merely stopped by to ask for help....not to argue.
Let's consider her response to the illustrious pystek.

"can I ask you what I said that was so offensive to you? I didn't post this up for entertainment, for pity, or any other reason... I just simply wanted to vent off and figure out why I am the way I am right now... "

Instead of criticizing insignificant issues like how her statement concerning criticism might be vague or ambiguous, perhaps we should have given her the benefit of doubt and tried to help.

Truth is....once in awhile...instead of being so quick to argue, we need to try and understand.

A loyal poster asked for help, for understanding, but instead we searched for all the little inconsistancies and holes in her statements....

Too late for understanding now, she left the forums.



Think about it.

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i'd just like to point out.... the obvious
the whole point of posting at a FORUM is to get feedback...ya know.. get other people to REPLY to the topic you were talking about? i'm sure you're familier with it
so ladi jay... don't try to say that you weren't asking for people to say anything when you were "venting" your frustrations.
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"be happy, smile a little... see things in a brighter angle" -_-

and not to attack psytek or anything (cuz lol i don't want to do that)... but in her mind what she's been through might be a lot.... who are you to say it isn't... i mean in a broader view it probably isn't a lot...most likely isn't a lot.... just isn't a lot...lol... but to HER it probably is a lot... so her only mistake is her.. lack of actual experience with guys.... cuz if she has been through what you think is "a lot with relationships" then she would probably think differently and might possibly agree with you

lol not that anyone pays attention to my posts anyway -_-
lastly.... sang you're cool

hmm and back on the love and dating topic then:
ladi jay, maybe you're just realizing that there's more to guys than just looks and flirting and petty dating rituals and what not.. maybe you need to now spend a little more time with a guy...i mean you might get lucky and get one of those good ones.... ya know the ones that can think lol j/p ..... yea maybe it just means you're maturing and realizing there's more to relationships than flirt date kiss and toss.

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we need a little love and support and respect in this forum/community. not just only towards ladijay, but everyone in general.

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