dont get it. why do you have to be catholic and go to a catholic church? can't you go to a protestant church? it's like saying, we have to go to church because it tells us too. the bible is so much bullshit, you know that right? why trust something like the bible that's been written in the medieval ages of time? you know the church and state were one and they both wanted money. s'all i have to say is this, you have believe in god in your heart. dont need churches, bibles, and tithing; with the rest of that shit. the number 1 importance in religion you have to believe god in your heart. with-out that what's the point of going to church? you dont need to go church...cause what did jesus, his disciples, and saul do? went around the fucking mediterrean and told people about god, they had no fucking churches. they told people about god from their hearts. dont need all that shit just to worship or believe god, you just need to believe god in your heart.

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First of all, moved to the Spiritual Life forum.

Jesus and his disciples established the church, that's why there weren't any churches at his time, there were only temples.

The reason you're not supposed to worship in churches of other denominations is because the teachings of the respective churches differ, and they operate somewhat differently.

Sure, human error could have messed up somewhere along in the bible, but the fundamental teachings in it are still valid, I'd think.

Also, when Jesus and His disciples set up the church, they also set up the position of pope, and this led to the establishment of the catechism of the catholic church, and all the teachings and requirements that one's supposed to do as a member of the catholic church.

But I also think, that yes, the most important thing is to believe in your heart in God, without that, nothing else would matter.

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okay .. i know you said you didn't want to offend anyone.. but you offended me .... in only the way that..

i don't know which religion you are... but "christians" are supposed to witness and bring others the news of god's glory... it's not enough to just have god in your heart... because what are you gonna do with that? sulk in your room? no you have to go out and teach what you know to everyone else... make a difference

in a sermon i learned that it isn't 'WWJD' (what would jesus do) it's: 'DWJD'- do what jesus did .... not to the point where you go and pierce your hands with nails.. but ... well you know what i mean right? just.. he went around.. and preached to people about god and not sinning... but then again.. i'm not telling you to do that to the point of annoying ppl... cuz yea.. forcing doesn't work.. and for those ppl that do that... gives a bad name to the rest who aren't trying to force ppl into it...

and have you heard of communion(uhm or mass)? it's where the church eats the same bread (representing jesus's body) and from the same cup (representing jesus's blood)... the point of the church is to bring together people. Church is where you go to feel safe .... like "sanctuary" ? Church is more like a family... They help you through the tough times.. and celebrate the good times too.

okay lol i'm done being offended...(so the only reason i was offended is because.. you were saying that all you wanted was for your own soul to be saved.. that you didn't care about your friend's soul.. or your neighbors.. or that homeless person on the street.. show some compasion mang)


and oh yea.. what tom said:
"The reason you're not supposed to worship in churches of other denominations is because the teachings of the respective churches differ, and they operate somewhat differently."

What you're saying is that it's like saying all religions are the same.. which they obviously aren't. There are different churchs and branches of christianity (or catholisim) for a reason..... because they ARE different... Like the teachings and beliefs of a catholic family and a mormon family have a lot of things in common but they're also different in a lot of ways

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we go to church to LEARN. of cos the most important thing is to believe God in your heart. but Christianity is MORE than a RELIGION. it's a RELATIONSHIP wit God. God is our Heavenly Father. and He wants us to get to know Him by reading the Bible, praying, and fellowshipping wit other believers in order to GROW spritiually TOGETHER. sometimes the Bible is hard to interpret... dat is wat the church is for. not only are there worship services on sundays but there are also Bible studies and fellowships in most churches. the church grow together and learn together thru those things.

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also.......
mormons and all that stuff are cult. they're different "denominations" (or watever u wanna call them) becuz they totally twisted the words of the Holy Bible. they pretty much made up their own stuff.. basically.

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mormons and all that stuff are cult. they're different "denominations" (or watever u wanna call them) becuz they totally twisted the words of the Holy Bible. they pretty much made up their own stuff.. basically.

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they differ in doctrine and in ritualistic practices

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for instance, the Catholic church is led by the Pope, and looks to the vatican for guidance, it is this system that the catholic church follows that makes it different from the protestant church and it's various branches/sects.

I think also, but am not totally sure, that the Catholic church believes in Saints, and prays to the saints (not worship of them, but pray to them).

correct me if i'm wrong, and If I am wrong, I apologize

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MellowYellow: i NEVER said mormons were mean, weird, bad, etc. i wasn't DISSING them. yeah ur right, mormons are nice people. READ MY POST AGAIN.... i never said bad things about them. all i said were they twist the words of the Holy Bible and when somebody does that, its called a cult.

BTW, "cult" does NOT necessay = "bad"

p.s. i'll use the "edit" button when i want to

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MellowYellow: when did i condemn mormons on my "path to glory"?

you are way too defensive

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no offense mellow yellow, but unismuimui is right. mormons have good family values and have their kids on track, but that's about it. they are not christians, they're pagans disguised as christianity. sad thing is a lot of them dont know whats going on until its too late. mormoms are people who say jesus and satan are brothers. mormons say the mark of cane is the flat nose and dark skin on black people. mormons believe that men live their life to attain god hood, and their spirtual spouse will give birth to eternal spirit children on their own planet. oh, the visitors who gave john smith his revelations came from the planet colob, just to clear that up =\ and he was able to translate the "gold tablets" with the "magic stone" he wore in his hat. sorry, mormons contradict chrisitianity in every way, and they even contradict themselves.

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no offense mellow yellow, but unismuimui is right. mormons have good family values and have their kids on track, but that's about it. they are not christians, they're pagans disguised as christianity. sad thing is a lot of them dont know whats going on until its too late. mormoms are people who say jesus and satan are brothers. mormons say the mark of cane is the flat nose and dark skin on black people. mormons believe that men live their life to attain god hood, and their spirtual spouse will give birth to eternal spirit children on their own planet. oh, the visitors who gave john smith his revelations came from the planet colob, just to clear that up =\ and he was able to translate the "gold tablets" with the "magic stone" he wore in his hat. sorry, mormons contradict chrisitianity in every way, and they even contradict themselves.

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i'm glad somebody understands wat i'm getting at. and seung ju, wat u said is true too... wat u said abt how mormons dun even know wats going on until its too late. and its also true they contradict christianity and even themselves...

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all i'm sayin is... all religions are different... you don't have the right to judge which one is right.. you just have to pick one for yourself and faithfully believe in it....

and yes.. all that stuff you said... you are saying that their religion is wrong... i don't care how nicely you try to put it.. that is what you said

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all i'm sayin is... all religions are different... you don't have the right to judge which one is right.. you just have to pick one for yourself and faithfully believe in it....

and yes.. all that stuff you said... you are saying that their religion is wrong... i don't care how nicely you try to put it.. that is what you said

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First of all, moved to the Spiritual Life forum.

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I got two (2) conclusions. (1.) The bible isn't really from the Dead Sea Scrolls, the bible is just a philosophy book made full of symbolisms and such to make people learn. (2.) The 'church' either fabricated or altered the bible to their own so that they can benefit it. There is no human error in it, remember the inquisitions, heresy, and all that crap.

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This shouldn't belong in the Spiritual Life forum, more like the Debate forum, cause it's causing lots of animosity.

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well volcom strider is rite on the points that it's much better to truly believe and not go to church than to go and not care, but there is a reason why christianity has its specificities. chrisitianity is very very broad, ranging from presbyterians to baptists to methodists to catholics and many, many more. each group interprets the bible a little differently; for instance, baptists and methodists and such don't pray to mary or to the saints. there are many fundamental differences, and that is why there are so many different churches it's not absolutely necessary to, say, go to a catholic church if ur catholic, but if u dun, wut happens at that mass will contradict sum of ur beliefs.

but it's troo, the main belief shud be GOD - but everyone interprets wut He sez differently, and so there realli is no right or wrong religion.

hmmm....many branches of chrisitianity believe u dun need a priest for confession, but catholics do. i guess that kinda relates to wut u sed volcom strider bout the need to go to church...sum pplz mite feel it's necessary, but othrs mite not need it to connect with God. i agree, not going to church duzn't make u a bad person and going to church duzn't necessarily make u a good person either.

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well, different denominations differ in doctrine, n some differ more radically, in different texts/added/appended/altered.......i think some denominations have it wrong, n others who have a more conservative/or liberal doctrine, but not necessarily wrong, but im not goin into deep detail about what i believe

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hey... the way i see it... church is a time of learning and growth... if you find yourself no longer growing in a church... perhaps try a different one... but there are denominations because of the o so many reasons listed above... its kind of ironic though... sunday is the MOST segregated day of the week... haha we all do believe in one god? we all agree that jesus is god's son... but the fact is because we are HUMAN... we all came to different conclusions as to how God wants us to dictate ourselves... some people believe in the purity of the body... some people believe in the sanctity of the mind... but thats no reason to believe ne denomination is better then the other... its just because once again... were HUMAN! haha... it seems like the biggest flaw we have is being ourselves

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