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wtf seung ju, you some "holy holy, see-no-evil, do-no-evil kid?"

cuz your fuckin preaching aint no good if you some messed up kid in real life... getting pissed at long prayers are the root of all EVIL but smoking and drinking after church aint so bad right?
theres a verse in the bible saying don't try to pull out a speck of dust from another man's eye, when you have a focking wood plank in your own eye.

you seem to have that nigger-korean attitude syndrome...if you look at my first post, this was my OPINION... what, im not even good enough to have an opinion on something???

p.s. sorry about the language...

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Originally posted by Klumzy

you seem to have that nigger-korean attitude syndrome...if you look at my first post, this was my OPINION... what, im not even good enough to have an opinion on something???

p.s. sorry about the language...

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you made some good points and some retarded ones but imma stop my comments from here on out

im not gonna argue with you or seung ju anymore becuase internet arguments are just gay... no matter who wins, they're all still retards, just like competing in the special olympics

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just like competing in the special olympics

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you made some good points and some retarded ones but imma stop my comments from here on out

im not gonna argue with you or seung ju anymore becuase internet arguments are just gay... no matter who wins, they're all still retards, just like competing in the special olympics

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hey shithead, what your problem?

why you trying to re-start an argument that had nothing to do you with in the first place? you seung ju's gay buddy or something? if not, FUCK OFF homo... go find another thread to dispense your worthless blabbler

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Klumzy, please try not to use so many ad homs when addressing other members of this forum. Especially as the moderator of this forum, you ought to be setting a better example for the other users. Any dispute you may have with other users can be resolved by other means, whether that be polite discussion, Private Messages, or whatnot.
Please refrain from such unnecessary actions in the future.

-and for my 2 cents, I think it's anyone's right to pray as they feel. If one doesn't agree with how others pray, that person doesn't have to stick around.

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we're not blastin you juhwan.. just calm down a bit.

i understand where you're comin from.. so understand what some other people comin from too.

lets all calm down a bit and speak your opinions respectfully .. and the last thing we want is a stupid forum fight .. i know that from experience..

if more arguments are made not concerning this thread or conducted in a manner not acceptable.. ima have to make fun of you.. and close this thread..

peace yall..

and remember God loves you all!

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why is it that you need to go to church and pray? can't you pray anywhere? does it matter how long it takes to pray, when you end up cussing and condemning other people? cos in my community, i see people who go to the temple regularly and pray for a long time, but then they never learn anything, i mean, they gossip, bitch, backstab, insult..then i wonder, what's the point? and i'm talking about old people here..its like, after all these years, this is what's they've become?

i'm not directing this to anyone, i'm just wondering, you know, as a person, what's all this religion stuff about.

im not a christian, i dont go to church, i don't follow any religion. i don't need a place to pray, and i don't need anyone telling me which is the way to God, and how to pray, and what to do and what not to do. sometimes i think religion is a form of control. well thats just my view..go ahead and blast me if you want...its just my point of view. ^_^;;

btw i would choose buddhism over any other religion if i had to.

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finally, poeple who can talk without pissing the other guy off

i know i was out of line by cursing and stuff, but if you take a look at Psychoman's last post and even seung ju's, their posts had a tone to it, like i'm some stupid kid for thinking that long prayers in church was stupid... i dunno, maybe they didn't intend to piss me off, but to me, it seemed like these 2 were bashing me for my thoughts

anyways, i apologize for my rants

but i still think its not proper etiquette to pray for 10+ min in church, i came to church to learn more about God, not hear someone pray for an eternity- i know everyone has a right to pray, but WHEN YOU ARE IN A GROUP, you have to think about other people around you, NOT everyone enjoys listening to 10+ mins of prayer

i dunno if this is a good example- but
EX. Person A likes to listen to ROCK music... he has a right to listen to it as much as he pleases, but if he is in a public place... making everyone listen to his kind of music is downright rude

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hey shithead, what your problem?

why you trying to re-start an argument that had nothing to do you with in the first place? you seung ju's gay buddy or something? if not, FUCK OFF homo... go find another thread to dispense your worthless blabbler

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finally, poeple who can talk without pissing the other guy off

i know i was out of line by cursing and stuff, but if you take a look at Psychoman's last post and even seung ju's, their posts had a tone to it, like i'm some stupid kid for thinking that long prayers in church was stupid... i dunno, maybe they didn't intend to piss me off, but to me, it seemed like these 2 were bashing me for my thoughts

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"Those womyn that seek equality with men, lack determination."

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woah...didn't chek for 2 dayz and look wut happened :sad: ok, let's refrain from bashing other members in any way and to just stick with discussing the topic...cuz if this gets realli out of hand and pplz get offended (as i imagine sum already hav) this thread mite hav to be closed....and since this IS the spiritual life forum like psychosnomwan pointed out, let's treat one another as how God wanted us to treat each other (sounds corny, but blah)

ok...neway, y do i think it's rude wen pplz pray for an eternity? klumzy had a good example. it's their right to pray for however long they want to. no one's gonna tell them to shut up or nethin cuz thaz realli mean and rude. but as a person talking, u shud alwaize keep in mind how ur audience is reacting....like if ur a teacher and ur giving a very very long lecture during class, thaz all find and dandy cuz u want the kids to learn stuff, but u havta realize that they'll eventualli lose interest and zone out. this is my opinion, and if neone thinks i'm rude or immature for thinking that speakers shud be courteous, well then thaz that.

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rhymester -
church is a gathering for ppl to worship God -
some ppl feel that they don't need organized religion to communicate with God - personally - i think it helps. church generally offers a disciplined method of worship, including disciplined prayers and whatnot - also, it exposes ppl to liturgy which they otherwise probably would not focus on -

different churches worships differently - have their own disciplines that differ from others - that's why i think it's important to seek a new environment if ppl are unhappy with worship where they are (for example: at a church where ppl pray too long)

prayer is simply talking to God - and klumzy, i'm fairly certain that you like to keep conversations short and sweet -
but how do you expect to awaken your spirit if you do not open your heart more to the meaning of the prayer rather than the prayer itself? sometimes you just have to give in and let the Spirit touch you.

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sometimes you just have to give in and let the Spirit touch you.

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how do you feel god's presence?

i read that having an orgasm is the same as feeling god..but its the wrong way to feel it. you can actually experience orgasm for as long as you want through meditation, and its supposed to feel throughout the whole body. yea that's what i read from yoga books.

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how do you feel god's presence?

i read that having an orgasm is the same as feeling god..

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i read that having an orgasm is the same as feeling god...

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um... im no expert in christianity but i don't think that's true... hella more people would be into religion if this was true

besides if this was true, i'd see a lot of people in church with a bulge in their crotch

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