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Originally posted by merc
I could go at this in so many directions...but no one wants a novel for a post... so i'll try and defend my case using the perspective of power of time.
I don't mind, write a novel...
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Let me try and describe the power of time:
I always believed time is our worst enemy because it's constant...unlike us. time goes on no matter what the circumstances, its inexorible, inevitable...you can say its a universal truth.
All right, for the sake of playing devil's advocate, here's a dumb argument: You can't say its a universal truth. Is it? does the entire universe encompass time? In a multiverse does it encompass time? or is there some master time over this time? Does it even exist? Do we just call this distance of occurences time or does it actually exist...no it doens't exist, we constructed it. Time is a label. Is it constant though? Democritus in ancient greek times said time flows like a river. That one can go upstream in time, or even further down. I don't entirely disagree with him, it sounds feasible, but then again most things do when we really have no understanding of them.
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At the feet of time is the power of the universe. God created the world w/ time (7 days).....Everything around you was created in time, everything is dependent on time, nothing can overcome time in this world. *its not proven, and will never be.... (how can you truely prove that something lasts forever?)
so you see.... even science is at the feet of time.
This is kind of another devil's advocate argument haha, i don't really think this, but think about it: no no no, just because time is part of somethign doens't mean that time ruled over it. I'm painting a wall, and time is passing, does that mean that time rules over me? no it doesn't, it means that time is present, not that it has any sort of control. Nothing is dependent on time, time is dependent on them. Without anything to define differences in time, time would not exist. Change is what defines time. If everything was constant, then there would never be anything called time. Time is constant because things change. And time does influence things, but nothing is dependant on time. Everything is affected by it though.
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If you had the ability to mess with time, you'd basically have this power. and although this type of unlimited power would be nice..., lets face the truth... we can't handle this type of power.
hahah, why not? yes we can. It's not as if we are "handling it" we are just going back and forth. The effects of this travel is the power you speak of. You are confusing the two. Time is not power, the effects of changing time is the power.
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imagine a world where we could simply go back and forth and change things. [We may start with a few MAJOR things in our lives (such as a death of a loved one, or an unforgettable- life influencing past event) ... but sooner or later i could bet that anyone who had this power would be exploiting it at their will.... and like Ladi Jay plainly put...there are somethings we simply cannot change...because we, as humans... cannot handle it.
Please, explain this...what things can we not change? people's mindsets? maybe i guess, but those really can be changed if worked upon, it's not as if it's out of hte reach of probability. But what can't we change? i don't get what you mean? what is so great that we can't handle it?
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I believe there's a reason why this so called "brilliant" species have not yet discovered time travel...and its simply because it's a power we cannot handle....
Wow, that must be the reason, we just can't handle it, so some omnipotent, ethereal being stops us from having it. Who cares if you didn't intend religion to carry into this, saying there is a "reason" above us dictates there must be some sort of omniscient that is the source of the reason...how can it not? That doesn't make any sense, we can't handle it? so we can't figure it out? Maybe it's just impossible, maybe it's cause we are not smart enough/haven't figured it out yet. Why does everything have to have all ready happened for us to not have to call it "not being able to handle it." That's what your message just said.
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i believe the moment anyone had it, it will be the moment we stop existing......
it's beyond the question of morality... its a truth.
How will we possibly stop existing? And i see a connection to morality in here, but where did it come from in this post? it just came out of no where, and i don't think this is a truth at all.
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