So, what's everyone (victor, me, tommy, hahah jp everyone else can answer too...any other deb8tors here?) think about the new nat'l debate topic?

"The United States Federal Government should substantially increase public health services in mental health care."

I like it better than last years topic so far, but that may change. heh.

ahhh, only 4 days left of debate camp left! :omg:

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so far I haven't really been impressed by this topic. jestingly, I'd say people picked it because of the massive hard-ons they have for Foucault, but that's really far from the truth. The cases that have been written at camp are mediocre, a lot of them don't seem to be really topical, but they'll be the core cases. It's a shame, oh well. They aren't really that strong either, this year will be interesting. I liked last year's topic a lot, and the privacy topic was tight too. Education was cool, but I didn't take a lot out of it as just a novice. We'll see though, this year.

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this topic has a LOT of leeway for T violations IMO. And Ks.
So we're probably expecting to see alot of that (you guys would know alot more since you went to camp)

Yea the privacy topic was supposed to be pretty solid, and was a good intro for novices.
With last years topic, most thing most novices learned was just blow up the Impact like a motherfuker, then answer all the off and on case. For the neg the strat was just run a d/a + 100 different crappy K's to take up all their time. Then if you don't get an independant voter off all that, then go for case...basic, but alot of powerplay. It didn't teach us very much about handling complex arguments, or tweaking the little things.

This years topic would generate alot of good debates though, and will probably have the debaters thinking alot to answer the other side.

In addition, the topic is succeptable to a great deal of Judge Bias, even moreso than last year's topic i believe.

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WAIT WAIT wasnt last years topic like weapons of mass destruction and stuff?
well hell look at how many freakin nut cases we hav, in the world also, crazy sobs
i dunno, i guess america should but the ones that REALLY need help usually dont go and get help... :huh:

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yeah, it's K crazy. We just had a tourney at the end of camp and it was hellafied k's every round. People were running like 2 or 3 of them too. I've never debated K's before and it was a new experience. It is interesting though.

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K is like a double-edged sword IMO. If the teams are good, and understand it and understand how to run it through and through, then it calls for a good debate that would be really interesting.

However, Ks are also like the newbie golden gun. Though it might be hard for them to do so, if they just convince the judge that it is both independent voter and that they capture it, then they win. Just like that. Doesn't matter how skilled they are, or how well they understand the case.

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Originally posted by Crazydeb8ter
K is like a double-edged sword IMO. If the teams are good, and understand it and understand how to run it through and through, then it calls for a good debate that would be really interesting.

However, Ks are also like the newbie golden gun. Though it might be hard for them to do so, if they just convince the judge that it is both independent voter and that they capture it, then they win. Just like that. Doesn't matter how skilled they are, or how well they understand the case.

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i think both of you are completely wrong about kritik's. i'll post more on this later, i have to finish writing my 2ac blocks for some practice rounds tomorrow. I have to write them for Foucault and feminism, this should be easy since my partner and I rock the K. haha. later

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HAH! i do no debate work at all...man writing Blox are the worst. Worst ever.

Theres a couple girls, they aren't that great, but they spend so much fuckin time writing blocks. Sad...

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so anyway,

What does everyone think? Should there be parity between mental health care and physical health care? As in hospitals, insurance or whatever.

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