Bored? Come in and play at Jusunlee.com Arcade! Go chat in Jusunlee.com Chatroom (requires AIM) Here you can view your subscribed threads, work with private messages and edit your profile and preferences Registration is free! Calendar Find other members Frequently Asked Questions Search Home
Jusunlee.com Forums > Intellectuals > Debate > Religious or Scienitific Explaination?
Which explaination
You do not have permission to vote on this poll.
Religious 6 42.86%
Scientific 8 57.14%
Total: 14 votes 100%
  [Edit Poll (moderators only)]

  Last Thread   Next Thread
Author
Thread Post New Thread    Post A Reply
DEmeant0r
Ex-Mod

Registered: Aug 2002
Location:
Posts: 1229
Status: Offline

Religious or Scienitific Explaination?

Do you believe the Religious or Scientific reason for the beginning of this universe? personally I think the Scientific reason (The Big Bang) seems more believable. yeah yeah you can argue about what made the big bang, but, you could also argue about how God came into existance.

__________________
Website: http://www.demeant0r.com
Contacts: email: davidyip@oceanfree.net

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Old Post 11-12-2002 07:52 PM
Click Here to See the Profile for DEmeant0r Click here to Send DEmeant0r a Private Message Visit DEmeant0r's homepage! Find more posts by DEmeant0r Add DEmeant0r to your buddy list Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
tm11
down by law

Registered: Mar 2002
Location: MI
Posts: 1548
Status: Offline

Please move this to debate

__________________
word is bond

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Old Post 11-12-2002 07:55 PM
Click Here to See the Profile for tm11 Click here to Send tm11 a Private Message Find more posts by tm11 Add tm11 to your buddy list Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Street RSX
member

Registered: May 2002
Location:
Posts: 3910
Status: Offline

i dun kno why.. buh as for me.. i grew up as a christian.. so i grew up knowin that god created tha earth, and when i first heard about tha big bang theory.. i thought it wuz all fake. buh i also know that.. it could be connected.. since god could've created tha earth wit a big bang causing everything to appear and spread,.. who knows..

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Old Post 11-12-2002 07:59 PM
Click Here to See the Profile for Street RSX Click here to Send Street RSX a Private Message Find more posts by Street RSX Add Street RSX to your buddy list Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
krnxkid
ChOibOii

Registered: Oct 2002
Location: NY
Posts: 1205
Status: Offline

fuck the science theory
everybody knos god created everything

__________________
im me- AIM: choiboii12
XANGA : choiboii123

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Old Post 11-12-2002 08:53 PM
Click Here to See the Profile for krnxkid Click here to Send krnxkid a Private Message Visit krnxkid's homepage! Find more posts by krnxkid Add krnxkid to your buddy list Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
tm11
down by law

Registered: Mar 2002
Location: MI
Posts: 1548
Status: Offline

I do think science and religion should be kept seperate, but for a lot of our understanding of science to be true, the big bang theory is one of the most viable options to pick. For some, faith is too much of a leap, and it's more sensible that by pure serendipity and a chain of randomly occuring events the big bang occured.

__________________
word is bond

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Old Post 11-12-2002 08:59 PM
Click Here to See the Profile for tm11 Click here to Send tm11 a Private Message Find more posts by tm11 Add tm11 to your buddy list Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
eddiee
werD?

Registered: Aug 2002
Location: 2o1
Posts: 3795
Status: Offline

quote:
Originally posted by krnxkid
fuck the science theory
everybody knos god created everything



what if your not christian?

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Old Post 11-12-2002 09:31 PM
Click Here to See the Profile for eddiee Click here to Send eddiee a Private Message Find more posts by eddiee Add eddiee to your buddy list Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
PsychoSnowman
Debate Mod

Registered: Mar 2002
Location: Snowman's Land
Posts: 3706
Status: Offline

scientific, hmmm i still don't buy the big bang...it just seems so absurd to me. I haven't thought of anything better so i adhere to that though.

__________________
Long messages do not equal aggravation of any sort,
rather they reflect nothing more than a response of insight
that should always be read in a matter-of-fact tone.

"Those womyn that seek equality with men, lack determination."

"I beseech you, in the bowels of Christ, think it possible you may be wrong."
-Cromwell

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Old Post 11-12-2002 09:51 PM
Click Here to See the Profile for PsychoSnowman Click here to Send PsychoSnowman a Private Message Find more posts by PsychoSnowman Add PsychoSnowman to your buddy list Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
krnxkid
ChOibOii

Registered: Oct 2002
Location: NY
Posts: 1205
Status: Offline

quote:
Originally posted by LiLbLuEaZnBoY


what if your not christian?


hav them go to church and read the bible... then c wat they think

__________________
im me- AIM: choiboii12
XANGA : choiboii123

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Old Post 11-12-2002 10:49 PM
Click Here to See the Profile for krnxkid Click here to Send krnxkid a Private Message Visit krnxkid's homepage! Find more posts by krnxkid Add krnxkid to your buddy list Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
PsychoSnowman
Debate Mod

Registered: Mar 2002
Location: Snowman's Land
Posts: 3706
Status: Offline

quote:
Originally posted by krnxkid

hav them go to church and read the bible... then c wat they think



haha, i'm sure they won't all have some sort of epiphany and realize the "truth" that god created everyone hahaha . Sorry, i don't mean to make fun of it, but "everybody [doesn't just] knos god created everything." That is extremely closeminded. By your thinking everyone would be christian in today's world had they been exposed to it, and that's far from the case.

__________________
Long messages do not equal aggravation of any sort,
rather they reflect nothing more than a response of insight
that should always be read in a matter-of-fact tone.

"Those womyn that seek equality with men, lack determination."

"I beseech you, in the bowels of Christ, think it possible you may be wrong."
-Cromwell

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Old Post 11-13-2002 12:48 AM
Click Here to See the Profile for PsychoSnowman Click here to Send PsychoSnowman a Private Message Find more posts by PsychoSnowman Add PsychoSnowman to your buddy list Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
azn0monk
mystupidSNfromwayback

Registered: Aug 2002
Location:
Posts: 534
Status: Offline

its scientific but in essence its religious
yanno? or am i confusin

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Old Post 11-13-2002 02:01 AM
Click Here to See the Profile for azn0monk Click here to Send azn0monk a Private Message Find more posts by azn0monk Add azn0monk to your buddy list Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Alchemist
3 Coulombs

Registered: Apr 2002
Location: In your dreams
Posts: 3769
Status: Offline

Read Inherit the wind, or watch it.

It's based on the John Scopes trial.

As it's message shows that the Bible may not be 100% literal, it may have metaphors. The lawyer who defended the teacher believed that Darwinism (evolution) and Creationism may coexist.

This is similar to the debate here, they don't necessarily have to contradict each other do they?

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Old Post 11-13-2002 02:47 AM
Click Here to See the Profile for Alchemist Click here to Send Alchemist a Private Message Visit Alchemist's homepage! Find more posts by Alchemist Add Alchemist to your buddy list Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
saranghae
Moderator

Registered: May 2002
Location: cali
Posts: 4994
Status: Offline

quote:
Originally posted by krnxkid

hav them go to church and read the bible... then c wat they think



that may not always be the case thoe.

and for me.. as a christian i believe that god created all living things... but then when i heard about the big bang... i was kinda in the middle.... but i still think they're connected... some how ^^

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Old Post 11-13-2002 03:21 AM
Click Here to See the Profile for saranghae Click here to Send saranghae a Private Message Find more posts by saranghae Add saranghae to your buddy list Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
angelicxshield
Fobulous

Registered: Aug 2002
Location:
Posts: 173
Status: Offline

just a question... do u realli tink the universe was created in 7 days? ^^||| ... im not christian... sorri to those who find this offensive in any way

__________________
«•΄`•.(*•.Έ(`•.Έ one love Έ.•΄)Έ.•*).•΄`•»
«•΄¨*•.ΈΈ.* .:10.15.02:.*.ΈΈ.•*¨`•»
«•΄`•.(Έ.•΄(Έ.•* *•.Έ)`•.Έ).•΄`•»

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Old Post 11-13-2002 04:09 AM
Click Here to See the Profile for angelicxshield Click here to Send angelicxshield a Private Message Visit angelicxshield's homepage! Find more posts by angelicxshield Add angelicxshield to your buddy list Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
DEmeant0r
Ex-Mod

Registered: Aug 2002
Location:
Posts: 1229
Status: Offline

quote:
Originally posted by angelicxshield
just a question... do u realli tink the universe was created in 7 days? ^^||| ... im not christian... sorri to those who find this offensive in any way

Seven days? man the asteroids and stuff must have moved pretty fast. I think the Big Bang seems to be the most logical theory, now if God really exists, tell me this, what was there before God? Did God just magically appear and create this universe?

__________________
Website: http://www.demeant0r.com
Contacts: email: davidyip@oceanfree.net

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Old Post 11-13-2002 05:48 PM
Click Here to See the Profile for DEmeant0r Click here to Send DEmeant0r a Private Message Visit DEmeant0r's homepage! Find more posts by DEmeant0r Add DEmeant0r to your buddy list Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
seung ju
Senior Member

Registered: Apr 2002
Location: texas
Posts: 1289
Status: Offline

EDIT - some mod please delete this,,, i accidently hit quote instead of edit.

__________________

thanx huby40

Last edited by seung ju on 11-13-2002 at 07:21 PM

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Old Post 11-13-2002 07:15 PM
Click Here to See the Profile for seung ju Click here to Send seung ju a Private Message Find more posts by seung ju Add seung ju to your buddy list Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
seung ju
Senior Member

Registered: Apr 2002
Location: texas
Posts: 1289
Status: Offline

quote:
Originally posted by DEmeant0r

Seven days? man the asteroids and stuff must have moved pretty fast. I think the Big Bang seems to be the most logical theory, now if God really exists, tell me this, what was there before God? Did God just magically appear and create this universe?


God is said to exist outside of our sense of time... so therefore he always was and always will be. i mean, if its God, why does he have to have a beginning and end just because that's our perception of the way events work?

but back on topic -- i'm with david -- big bang seems too absurd to be true... but i am christian. however - dont know how God created the universe or how long it took... and honestly dont care. so i dont think about it.

and i also agree with alchemist -- only fundamentalists believe that the Bible is 100% literal... most other christians believe that its a mixture of metaphors and truth. so universe created in 7 days?? probably not... the people who wrote the Bible wrote in a way so it could be understood by the people at the time, so it could very well have taken billions of years.

__________________

thanx huby40

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Old Post 11-13-2002 07:16 PM
Click Here to See the Profile for seung ju Click here to Send seung ju a Private Message Find more posts by seung ju Add seung ju to your buddy list Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
krnxswat
what a joke!

Registered: Mar 2002
Location: New York
Posts: 5391
Status: Offline

moved to debate.

quote:
Originally posted by tm11
Please move this to debate


moved.
like aaron said, i grew up as a Christian, so I voted for religious.

__________________
immagijibae: seons a hoeeeeeee, he wears them g-strings, and i also knowwwww, they hurt his dinga-lings~ la l alalala~ nanannan~ oh~ seons a hoeeeeee, he wears them g-strings..............
immagijibae: liiiiiiiiiiiiiike my new 1-minute-made-up song???????

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Old Post 11-13-2002 07:29 PM
Click Here to See the Profile for krnxswat Click here to Send krnxswat a Private Message Visit krnxswat's homepage! Find more posts by krnxswat Add krnxswat to your buddy list Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Crazydeb8ter
administrator

Registered: Apr 2002
Location: CA
Posts: 5465
Status: Offline

science is king.

__________________
ni pour ni contre; ηa m'est ιgal

"The weight of this sad time we must obey,/ Speak what we feel, not what we ought to say./ The oldest hath borne most; we that are young/ Shall never see so much, nor live so long."
King Lear (V.3.300-304)

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Old Post 11-14-2002 12:48 AM
Click Here to See the Profile for Crazydeb8ter Click here to Send Crazydeb8ter a Private Message Find more posts by Crazydeb8ter Add Crazydeb8ter to your buddy list Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
aznkid1008
God is my judge

Registered: Apr 2002
Location: nj
Posts: 2031
Status: Offline

hmmm why cant u say God created the universe wit a Big Bang? put science and religion 2gether? i mean Genesis is vague at points. the days in Genesis rnt like 24 hour days since there is no earth at the time God was creatin everythin. i mean he couldnt really explain to person or people who wrote the Bible that yea i did it in one big bang and such. im not sure wat side 2 take. :huh:

__________________
the fool is the one who thinks he is wise, yet the wise one is the one who thinks he is a fool

Remember the heros
Remember the lives
Remember the day
God bless

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Old Post 11-14-2002 01:44 AM
Click Here to See the Profile for aznkid1008 Click here to Send aznkid1008 a Private Message Find more posts by aznkid1008 Add aznkid1008 to your buddy list Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
Jj2
JSL Member

Registered: May 2002
Location: australia
Posts: 970
Status: Offline

quote:
Originally posted by aznkid1008
hmmm why cant u say God created the universe wit a Big Bang? put science and religion 2gether?


i was just going to say that. this prob sound like a bunch of bullshit but...i'm a christian and i'm still learning about the Bible and about God and at the same time, disregarding some scientific theories. it's really hard considering that i chose science over christianity before i decided to live a life as a christian but...it's hard for me chose...i mean, it takes A LOT of convincing to change my mind. so yeah...after reading the posts...i think prob science & christianity 'might' go hand in hand... :sleepy:

__________________
"Remember...hope is a good thing,
maybe the best of things,
and no good thing ever dies."

Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged

Old Post 11-17-2002 01:50 AM
Click Here to See the Profile for Jj2 Click here to Send Jj2 a Private Message Find more posts by Jj2 Add Jj2 to your buddy list Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
All times are GMT. The time now is 02:57 AM. Post New Thread    Post A Reply
  Last Thread   Next Thread

Show Printable Version Email this Page Subscribe to this Thread

Forum Rules:
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is OFF
vB code is ON
Smilies are ON
[IMG] code is ON