<sarcasm>that certainly would be pointless. I mean, man, people having two differing sides of opinion would make debating it pointless </sarcasm>...oh damn, nevermind, that's what makes a debate a debate. Here's a better question, what debate doesn't revolve around internalized beliefs?
It's not impossible to sway people to think the other way like you make it seem, nor is that the point of a debate forum. It is to get both sides explained, and developed. Maybe even we can learn something, or maybe see the other side and realize that it is better than ours or vice versa.
And on what you said, how does liberalism and traditionalism have anything to do with fetishes? A traditional relationship could be considered a fetish as well, so could a liberalist one. I don't see what you mean. You really didn't explain anything except what liberalism is.
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