do they exist? if so, what are they?

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there is 1 universal truth.

There is an exception to everything.

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whats the exception to mathematics? How is there something else that differs from the sum of angles in a triangle equal 180 degrees?

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yes there are exceptions in mathematics.

There are exceptions to the rules made for mathematics. Per se, if one were to figure out the missing length of an obtuse triangle. One usually could solve it using SinCosTan, however, there are exceptions to this. If the height is greater or less than the missing side, there are different resultants that can occur and thus make them exceptions to the SinCosTan rule.

If statements point to many exceptions in the world.

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yes, but thats not an exception. There's a variation in the method used, but that rule is only for certain cases, and i wasn't referring to that. the "answers" are what i was talking about. There will always be two different resultants for those cases, as well as there being only one truth for the sum of a triangles angles equals 180 degrees. 1+1 will always equal two (not in different bases), is there an exception to that? The rule you described is to find a resultant to the triangle, not "the only one." I don't think thats an exception because it still works. If it didn't work, that would be an exception.

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i hate math...


are there any other universal truths?

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the only universal truth i can think of is that we think...that was by...Aristotle? I think...anyway i think thats the only one, he described how math is not even a universal truth because it may differ in different areas of space and planets, but i don't see how that is...but i'll blindly accept it.

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hmm.. i blindly accept it too.. i can't do anything about it. i'd blindly accept almost anything for a good grade.

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yes, but thats not an exception. There's a variation in the method used, but that rule is only for certain cases, and i wasn't referring to that. the "answers" are what i was talking about. There will always be two different resultants for those cases, as well as there being only one truth for the sum of a triangles angles equals 180 degrees. 1+1 will always equal two (not in different bases), is there an exception to that? The rule you described is to find a resultant to the triangle, not "the only one." I don't think thats an exception because it still works. If it didn't work, that would be an exception.

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but wouldn't that same rule still yield a possible result in the same way it does for the other cases? So the rule still works for that. And though there are other possibilities, according to dictionary.com, an exception is "an instance that does not conform to a rule or generalization." The sincostan rule finds A side to the triangle, not all of them,...how could it possibly be an exception if the rule is to not find more than one side?

anyway, if i'm wrong on that, how are there exceptions to the basics? higher math is questionable i agree, but basic math is self-explanatory.

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anyway, if i'm wrong on that, how are there exceptions to the basics? higher math is questionable i agree, but basic math is self-explanatory.

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but wouldn't that same rule still yield a possible result in the same way it does for the other cases? So the rule still works for that. And though there are other possibilities, according to dictionary.com, an exception is "an instance that does not conform to a rule or generalization." The sincostan rule finds A side to the triangle, not all of them,...how could it possibly be an exception if the rule is to not find more than one side?

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u can mathematically prove that if it 2 boys can paint a fence in 4 days, then 1 boy can paint a fence in 8. does that mean that 1 boy will paint a fence in 8 days? no, because while u were doing the problem, u didnt factor in the time it takes for him to think "why the hell am i painting this god damn fence by my self" or the time it takes for him to say "screw this, im goin to the mall." In that case it will take longer to paint the fence, or the fence might not even be painted at all.

Math is way of predicting of what can happen, not what will happen. It is based on an idealstic, flawless world, which does not exist anywhere in the universe (and if it does, show me where it is).

Which comes to my realization of another universal truth, that none of you can debate:

Shit Happens.

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damnnn look at all them smart ppl postin smart stuff i dont understand -__-

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there aren't. Nor did I say so. Otherwise our whole pyramid of mathematics are built on faulty foundations, which would give way sooner or later. In that case, I wouldn't want to be there to see the chaos.

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wow...this is getting interesting...

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you're born... then you die

???

i dunno ...

i'm strong... i'm great....... 2 +2 is 8


i feel so stupid here.....

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crazydeb8ter, yeah i understand what you're talking about, but since the rule is only to find one side it still comes through even if there is another one. The rule doesn't fail, and that would be the only exception there could be. you can still use the rule to find one of the sides, the one it is intended to find. Just because there is another one doesn't mean it's an exception cause it still solves for the side it's supposed to. I don't know how many times i can restate this hah. Are you saying just because there is another side that that is an exception to the rule?

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I kno of 1 universal truth
if there is Good there must be Evil
there must always be a fine balance kept by God and the Devil

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