sims..haha

well, there ARE a lot of spam threads, but wudn't sum1 get offended if u deleted them? not necessarily the thread starters, but sum1 is bound to take offense....i dunno. maib just close the threads that u think are pointless? :huh:

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well, there ARE a lot of spam threads, but wudn't sum1 get offended if u deleted them? not necessarily the thread starters, but sum1 is bound to take offense....i dunno. maib just close the threads that u think are pointless? :huh:

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i do get kind of offended when....ahem...PEOPLE, not naming anyone, just decide to delete whatever threads they want, especially when people question the reason for a certain unilateral action taken by that person, and instead of explaining themselves they just delete the entire thread, as well as countless "spam" threads. Overmoderator? I think so, but now this thread may get deleted because i said that. There should be fine balance in moderation. "Moderation in Moderation" if i may say.

Spam hasn't been that much of a trouble as of yet, and as jusun stated we should only delete it if floods happen, and that hasn't een come close to happening yet. don't get me wrong, i'm not bashing, but moderators don't need to be so aggresive, i'm just trying to get the point across to everyone peacefully without it getting deleted for the 3rd time.

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psycho you referring to seon ho? i know he deletes stuff but just when he feels like its needed to be

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yep, i'm referring to him. Even so, i haven't seen an instance when it was justified. It's all unjustified unilateral action. I mean, come on, when someone questions a unilateral action you took as a supermod...what should you do? Explain yourself and the rationale for what you did, or...CLOSE IT!? (the latter action was taken) haha, it's terrible, and abusive as a moderator to use his power to his own benefit.

I think jon, or someone posted some picture up, and he saw it an deleted it before most people saw it because he thought it was questionable...and what proceeded to follow? he closed the thread, instead of even leaving a hint at why he did it. Similar situations have happened in the past. It's not following Jusun's netiquette, it's almost his own supermod code of conduct. No one agrees with his actions, seriously. "oh if someone asks me why i did something, or even a hint at someone maybe being right comes up, i'll just delete the thread" it's ludicrous. I know he tries to act in the best interest of the forum, but it's not following the netiquette, even moreso it's tweaking it to allow a power figure take advantage of his own position to save his own face.

-edit- oh yeah, this really wouldn't be able to be solved through PMs, so that's why i'm saying it here. Cause the topic has come up a lot, but it gets deleted or something. And this isn't bashing, it's questioning. I didn't say anything bad about him. So don't delete it seon ho.

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yeah I'd have to agree with david and jon (btw it's cool that you started this thread and are taking feedback from others before making a final decision. You are a badass supermoderator hahah :thumbup:)

there seems to be a double-standard sometimes that certain moderators impose, and all the people who are so critical of spam are such hypocrites, writing posts that are just one-word and such, which are functionally spam.

everytime we have a discussion on this it gets closed :sad:....

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yep, i'm referring to him. Even so, i haven't seen an instance when it was justified. It's all unjustified unilateral action. I mean, come on, when someone questions a unilateral action you took as a supermod...what should you do? Explain yourself and the rationale for what you did, or...CLOSE IT!? (the latter action was taken) haha, it's terrible, and abusive as a moderator to use his power to his own benefit.

I think jon, or someone posted some picture up, and he saw it an deleted it before most people saw it because he thought it was questionable...and what proceeded to follow? he closed the thread, instead of even leaving a hint at why he did it. Similar situations have happened in the past. It's not following Jusun's netiquette, it's almost his own supermod code of conduct. No one agrees with his actions, seriously. "oh if someone asks me why i did something, or even a hint at someone maybe being right comes up, i'll just delete the thread" it's ludicrous. I know he tries to act in the best interest of the forum, but it's not following the netiquette, even moreso it's tweaking it to allow a power figure take advantage of his own position to save his own face.

-edit- oh yeah, this really wouldn't be able to be solved through PMs, so that's why i'm saying it here. Cause the topic has come up a lot, but it gets deleted or something. And this isn't bashing, it's questioning. I didn't say anything bad about him. So don't delete it seon ho.

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it means he takes advantage of his power for the preserving of his own personal dignity. If someone questions his power he might delete a thread so no one can see the questioning. Deletes threads so no one can see his plain misuse of power. It's censoring like that of banning books in South Africa in apartheid era, or in fahrenheit 451 (i know not to that extent). Not allowing the rest of the community to see his actions cause he covers up his own tracks, and people's objections to them. It's an abuse of power, or misuse at least.

Gendered language was used on purpose hoho.

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it means he takes advantage of his power for the preserving of his own personal dignity. If someone questions his power he might delete a thread so no one can see the questioning. Deletes threads so no one can see his plain misuse of power. It's censoring like that of banning books in South Africa in apartheid era, or in fahrenheit 451 (i know not to that extent). Not allowing the rest of the community to see his actions cause he covers up his own tracks, and people's objections to them. It's an abuse of power, or misuse at least.

Gendered language was used on purpose hoho.

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yea right -_- u wouldn't made dis forum if ajk or wuteva n other members wouldn't say ne thin m i not right? no one started talkin bout spammin to other people but me all i see on d boards is "mc spam" but its cool i ain't mad

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i see what your saying..yes i have deleted only 3 threads so far..and yes your right..its not justified, and it is misuse of power just as you stated..and where are getting this from exactly..covering up my tracks? what tracks? i threads i deleted were very pointless in this board..it was completely and utterly useless..so i took my good judgement and deleting it..and yea maybe i didn't have the right to and no reason can really justify my actions..but that was my thought was on those threads..sure my opinions don't give me the right to delete threads like that and i realize now..my apologies..but don't be assuming things about my responsibility and the reasons why i chose to delete them..your basically accussing me of what my reasons/motives were when you in fact do not know them yourself..

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nah man, i wasn't saying all actions of deleting threads is bad, i was saying that deleting threads when there was no reason to is bad, and a misuse of power, etc. Deleting pointless threads are all right i guess, it doesn't matter that much, but then again, why delete them? Anyway, i know it's all subjective. But, I was implicating what krnxswawt did, not you, but regardless the reason seemed pretty clear. I have had no problems with what you have done, but when he (if it was him indeed), deleted a thread when like 6 people were like "why did you get rid of the picture?" One would logically assume the thread was deleted because of the conflict that arose in regards to a questionable answer (empirically it seemed that way as well). But then again, it could be just deleted because of the bootlessness of the thread, but judging from krnxswats other actions, i believed the first reason. He is known for closing threads, especially spam threads, when people begin to question his rationale in doing his unilateral actions. It's not as if i'm talking with no warrant. I don't need to assume what the responsibility of a supermod is because i took it from the netiquette, which jusun wrote. And accusing him of reasons/motives were in good support of evidence, not to say i'm right, but it very well go either way. It's all rather quite valid what i am saying.

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i respect what your saying..your statement is very valid indeed..oh..i thought you were referring to me as well..if you were..thanks.. it kinda made me think of my actions alot more..before what you said..that's why i made this thread..instead of using my own opinion and judgement in to why to close a certain thread..i simply put this thread out to get the opinions of moderators such as yourself..and then we can see and justify why a certain thread should be changed..

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cool, yeah i'm glad a thread about deletion of threads is finally being discussed, and not censored. This was a good idea though i admit, getting everyone's opinion on it. Good job :thumbup:

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. I have had no problems with what you have done, but when he (if it was him indeed), deleted a thread when like 6 people were like "why did you get rid of the picture?" One would logically assume the thread was deleted because of the conflict that arose in regards to a questionable answer (empirically it seemed that way as well). .

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it wasn't your thread, the one i was talking about.

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this thread has gotten out of hand. a supermoderator should definitely delete it, or close it at the least.

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