Yo have gay rights gone a little to far in some areas? I was talking to my sister today and she was telling me about this gay guy in the high school who would go around telling teachers that their make up is put on incorrectly or show disrespect in some other way. If anyone were to point out that he is being rude he would counter it with "you don't like me because I'm gay" apparently he does not endure any repercussions that normal students would encounter. It really seems that if one person should slap him for being an ass the result would be an independent film being produced to portray the horrible assault that a homosexual at TZHS had to endure due to discrimination.

Also someone said that homophobia should be illegal or a crime or something like that. While some forms of homophobia should be illegal, I don't think that laws governing how people feel should be passed by the government.

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Illegalizing homophobia is like illegalizing racism, can't really do it.

Of course, we hate racism, it's a horrible disease. Homophobia is pretty bad, too, obviously. But 'hate crime' legislation is there already, no need for any "Thought control" legislation.

As for your original point...sounds like he's playing the "gay" card (similar to playing the "race" card, so actually it's probably the "sexual orientation" card, but that's too long a phrase, so I chose "gay" card instead). Though I'm not sure if telling a teacher that her make up is on incorrectly is a form of disrespect that needs to be corrected or anything.

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It really seems that if one person should slap him for being an ass the result would be an independent film being produced to portray the horrible assault that a homosexual at TZHS had to endure due to discrimination.

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the gay card and the race card are rather different though. While someone may make a big deal about a slight incident with a police officer, it is statistically true that blacks encounter and have more problems with the police than is called for in terms of other races (e.g. police brutality).

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And there have been no cases of homosexuals being beaten up (not by police, but in general) because they're gay?

I don't think there're too many studies about the gay card, so I don't think it can be definitively said whether it is as valid or less valid than the race card.

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Maybe I need to provide more details here. In class, the kid was like, "You know what? You're makeup is no good! It's the blush, it's definitely the blush. It makes you look OLD" and if anyone tried to call him out on his rudeness, he would say, "Oh, you don't like me because I'm gay, is that it?"

The common sense response would be "No, I don't like you because you're rude," or "You're making the teacher feel insecure about her appearance, which is generally not a nice thing to do," or "You're rude."

Maybe the kid is being discriminated against at home, I don't know, but I can't remember ever seeing anyone beat up or called names for being gay at TZHS, it seemed like a very gay-friendly area to me. Either way, it's not right that he should cry "discrimination" as a method to slander anyone he wants to, or that his sexual orientation should grant him immunity from criticism in the event that he should make such obnoxious statements as he does.

As I recall, Stony Brook University is a much harsher area for gay people in that "gay" is used as a derogatory term much more frequently. Anywhere from something seeming homosexual to improper stance.
There's a gay person I know at Stony Brook who is very friendly and manages to get by without insulting people's style or make up.

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don't get it twisted. He doesn't represent the gay community. He's just a bitch in high school. Yes they come in male form also.

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don't get it twisted. He doesn't represent the gay community. He's just a bitch in high school. Yes they come in male form also.

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but not all gay's are like that. it may be in just that one case or a few other elsewhere.. but what about when amognst other schoolmates. im sure there are alot of homophobes out there that abuse him and harass him for being openly gay. (which i think its just theyre own insecurity of being called gay) i know this kid i used to go to high school with, who was openly gay. he was picked on all the time and all he does is walk around with his backpack openned up (from idiots that follow behind him and try to steal his books). when someone tries to defend the kid, they call him gay for protecting the gay kid. then it becomes a huge mess. i was also called gay a few times for trying to tell them to shut up and just leave him alone, but i would just walk away. this topic is too controversial in all ages.. even in politics, the NJ governor was hated on bceause of his open sexuality. its ridiculous.

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Originally posted by Alchemist
Yo have gay rights gone a little to far in some areas? I was talking to my sister today and she was telling me about this gay guy in the high school who would go around telling teachers that their make up is put on incorrectly or show disrespect in some other way. If anyone were to point out that he is being rude he would counter it with "you don't like me because I'm gay" apparently he does not endure any repercussions that normal students would encounter. It really seems that if one person should slap him for being an ass the result would be an independent film being produced to portray the horrible assault that a homosexual at TZHS had to endure due to discrimination.

Also someone said that homophobia should be illegal or a crime or something like that. While some forms of homophobia should be illegal, I don't think that laws governing how people feel should be passed by the government.

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Yes, I strongly agree.....gay rights have gone WAY too far!

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by aaqthree
[B]Illegalizing homophobia is like illegalizing racism, can't really do it.

U go man!

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the gay card and the race card are rather different though. While someone may make a big deal about a slight incident with a police officer, it is statistically true that blacks encounter and have more problems with the police than is called for in terms of other races (e.g. police brutality).

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Boy, you sure got the right stats!

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Yo seriously, I went to the senior college propaganda seminar to speak and this kid was messing around by saying stuff and then the Principal just did a hand signal and a teacher put the kid down. If they can do this delta force enforcement stuff in the auditorium, they should do it everywhere.

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...then the Principal just did a hand signal and a teacher put the kid down...

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LOL. MAN... your school's admin sound like gangsters. Or the way you worded it.. haha. "a teacher put the kid down"... like you put a dog down when it gets really old and sick?

Anyhow... There's always those people who ruin it for everybody else. That one guy doesn't represent the homosexual community... but it doesn't mean he isn't a part of it either. Using the "gay card" as someone termed it... is like going backwards for gay activists. I thought they wanted to be accepted... treated like everybody [straight?] else. But this guy is just making himself an exception.

I think it's like how some present day women activists want true equality. No discrimination. But then they want certain privaleges/treatment [which they have but sometimes forget about] and that doesn't make us equal... which we aren't anyway. WE'RE NOT EQUAL. lol. And I have no problem with homosexuality or homosexuals either but... man... it's not the same... as being heterosexual. I'm not saying it's bad to be gay or anything but you can't argue that it's the same.

And just an input from me... I think everybody is a racist. lol. I guess I'm a pessimist or something. I dunno... a lot of people get offended and disagree with me when I say it.

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Originally posted by Alchemist
Yo seriously, I went to the senior college propaganda seminar to speak and this kid was messing around by saying stuff and then the Principal just did a hand signal and a teacher put the kid down. If they can do this delta force enforcement stuff in the auditorium, they should do it everywhere.

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Yup! That's the way it SHOULD be.

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