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nature vs nuture

nature vs nurture meaning do you think that people are shaped by their genetics(nature) or enviroment(nurture)???

Scientists think that heredity is more important than enviroment in determining personality. There are also two researches that are big in determining this... twins and new discoveries in molecular biology.

In 1979, a pair of twins were seperated within 5 weeks of birth. 39 years later, they appeared on Ripley's Believe It Or Not. Not only were they both 6 feet tall, dark haired, and 180 lbs... they also spoke with the same inflections, moved the same, made the same gestures, hated baseball, loved stock car racing, married women with the same name of Linda, divorced, then again, married the girls with the same name, Betty. Later while they took a personality test, it was as if it was the same person taking the test twice... Is this just coincidence or is it really in the genetics? I mean, they were put in different enviroments and grew up to be so alike.

But this only occurs in that case...

What do you think? Nature determines personality or nurture does??? Support your answer.

then again there are twins that are nothing like each other except in appearance.

it might be both nature and nurture, but imo, most people's personalities are determined by nurture and their upgringing, not something predetermined before your born (or something that could be grown in a lab)

hmmm its both. genetics will design ur initial body and skillz. but how the person grows up and his/her enviroment counts just as much. the soul of the person will also change from time. ur personality, skillz, and attitude will be shaped and formd by ur enviroment.

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You people are wrong. It's nature that affects how a person will turn out. Nurture affects you only to a point, even though it seems contradictory that Nature affects you more than nurture, it's true.

There's more to twins than them just looking the same, they came from the same egg and their genetic compositions are hella similar.

There have been numerous psychological studies that have proven that nature is more important than nurture. Identical twins are often the center of psychological studies because there are 2 people that have such very similar biological make-ups.

The case julie brings up has a lot of coincedences, and while there aren't always that many, the personalities of the two twins who've been seperated (personality is what this is all about) are often really really similar.

It's not just in that one case. Many cases have proven this to be true.

There's nothing to debate here, it's already been proven that nature effects someone more than nurture does.

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Originally posted by tm11
There's nothing to debate here, it's already been proven that nature effects someone more than nurture does.

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I was just discussing this with my psychology teacher the other day, because we're currently studying personality.
Julie, you're wrong about this, and it'd be nice if you actually knew correct information about this.

The statement that you can't get any evidence about this shows how your ignorance. There are a multitude of cases where Identical twins (who have the same genetic composition since they came from the same egg) were split up, and when they were observed later in their lives, they were found to have many same characteristics and personality traits, and I'm sure they had very differing lives. Still, they end up being the same, how do you explain that? This is why psychologists often study Identical twins to study personality, because you have 2 people that have the same "nature," and that's how you measure the effect of "nurture" on them. If they end up being the same, "nurture" obviously doesn't have much effect on them, now does it?

You even provide a perfect example for how Nature affects a person's personality and how they'll turn out than nurture will. Nurture does have an effect, but ONLY TO A POINT.
I'll ask my Psychology teacher for specific examples, you haven't provided any either, and you've provided poor examples at that. It's bootless to debate this.

your example is flawed, for several reasons. All of your "evidence" is subjective because they're all what you think. Before I knew any better, I thought that nurture affected a person more than nature did, but after actually reading LITERATURE on the topic, I found out the inverse was true.

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what about tia and tamera..

heh heh... just kidding...

not nature or nurture... nature and nurture...

it's not one or the other.... it's some and then the other... you can't say that the environment doesn't have an effect on a being at all... but you can't say that the genetic makeup of that person doesn't have an effect at all either...


i agree with tm11 although i don't have all the facts down.. there's nothing to argue... it's both... you even said it yourself julie.... but according to the facts i DID get from both of you....i would think nature would have a bigger impact on personality than nurture would...

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did I sound like I was leaning towards enviroment shaping people? because if I sounded like that I didn't mean to, I was just stating what I thought... I'm sorrie if I misled you to think that I was leaning towards one more than the other... I really don't know what to think about genetics or enviroment shaping personalities

i think both...
nature cuz it's nature. and also "nurture" cuz for example, what if you were really close with someone and then you dont see em for a long time and then after a while u do, and they change? they changed cuz of their environment right?