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Posted by phil c on 05-17-2003 04:51 AM:
matrix anyone?
does the matrix have you? 
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Posted by MiGhTy KiTTy on 05-17-2003 06:14 AM:
negative. haha
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Posted by niggoreanboi on 05-17-2003 06:27 AM:
no i can see the spoon i can feel the spoon i swear the spoon is there!
Posted by AZN Pinoy BOI on 05-17-2003 12:59 PM:
the matrix doesn't have me..... i have the matrix WOOOOOSH!
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Posted by not ajy 2k on 05-17-2003 06:03 PM:
no. shutup.
Posted by merdawg on 05-17-2003 06:27 PM:
no. i control the matrix. i can resize it, and fill it with stuff like this
apmatrix Matrix<shit> (9,9, shit)
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Posted by ajy on 05-17-2003 08:12 PM:
hell yeah im back
i saw the matrix 2, dissapointing
Posted by Ladi Jay on 05-18-2003 12:50 AM:
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Originally posted by AjY 2k
hell yeah im back
i saw the matrix 2, dissapointing
werd
it got too fakey... 
Posted by PsychoSnowman on 05-18-2003 04:20 AM:
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Originally posted by Ladi Jay
werd
it got too fakey...
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Posted by krnxswat on 05-18-2003 04:24 AM:
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Originally posted by AjY 2k
hell yeah im back
i saw the matrix 2, dissapointing
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Posted by niggoreanboi on 05-18-2003 04:25 AM:
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Originally posted by Ladi Jay
werd
it got too fakey...
i thought it was coo but there was just too much talking got some funny scenes though fighting scenes were good but it got too confusing for me and too much talking lol i just wanted to watch it cause they shot the freeway scene in Oakland ^_^ the twins were coo but i didn't like how they died lol
Posted by kRypTic_nABi on 05-18-2003 06:17 AM:
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Originally posted by niggoreanboi
i thought it was coo but there was just too much talking got some funny scenes though fighting scenes were good but it got too confusing for me and too much talking lol i just wanted to watch it cause they shot the freeway scene in Oakland ^_^ the twins were coo but i didn't like how they died lol
yea..there was way too much talking. i just watched it today. when i watched it, i was already exhausted from the earlier part of my day..so the talking did not help AT ALL. i was sitting there, and everytime someone would have a long conversation, my eyes would feel heavy and eventually i closed my eyes; however, still paying attention to the movie. it was funny..once something "exciting" happened, it would wake me up. and yea...there was one scene that was a waste of a scene...the scene of the party for the people. i don't see why they shot that scene and had to make it so damn long -_-. but yea..i loved the fighting scenes.......but hated the ending. i felt like i was watching a TV show and they were making us wait til next week to find out what happens, except we have to wait for half a year. oh..the key maker was great tho..he was soo cute >.<
Posted by niggoreanboi on 05-18-2003 09:51 AM:
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Originally posted by kRypTic_nABi
the key maker was great tho..he was soo cute >.<
lol when he died all the girls was all "awwww" or "oh no"
the twins were tight
Posted by ajy on 05-18-2003 09:57 AM:
cuz im bored here are my thoughts on the matrix reloaded.
this movie was just to sell the third one. There were no new ideas (like the first one), which made it not as interesting, and the plot was shit.
Posted by tm11 on 05-18-2003 06:30 PM:
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Originally posted by AjY 2k
this movie was just to sell the third one. There were no new ideas (like the first one), which made it not as interesting, and the plot was shit.
What are you talking about? To each his/her own, I suppose, but your view seems so fallacious. This isn't just a response to you Andrew, nothing personal, but I suppose it comes after a slew of similar views to yours.
People's expectations for this movie were far too high, especially considering there were almost no expectations for the first one when it came out. Regardless of that, it was still a solid movie, with a fairly original, substantial plot, especially considering that at its heart it's an action movie.
I don't believe it was created just to sell the third one. Every movie's made to make money, and sequels are made to capitalize on the success of their predecessors. After the success of the first movie, the creators of the movie were on board to make two more movies, and considering that this movie was the second in a trilogy, it did an excellent job of sustaining itself as an individual movie as well as creating suspense for the final chapter.
To your point that there was no new ideas, I can agree with you there. Many of the ideas that are presented in both movies have already been thought of. However, that's not a detracting factor of the series at all, because of the clever and excellent presentation in the movie(s). I don't know of many other mainstream movies in recent years that have had as many allusions to science, philosophy, theology, and culture just as the Matrix did. Even if the concepts aren't totally new, the Wachowskis did an excellent job of consolidating those ideas and presenting them in a fairly unique fashion for their target audences. The Matrix became a pop culture hegemon after its release, and that's rare for a movie that didn't have an excessive amount of hype. It was groundbreaking at the time, and after something like that, there's only so much farther you can go. Also, considering time and technology constraints, the sequel was phenomenal.
With your last remark that the plot was shit, I can't help but disagree with you. Perhaps you could give some examples of what movies had good plots? I just would like to understand where you're coming from, and what you're using comparitively to judge. The plot was full of substance, did not have any holes, and despite the lack of exceptional acting (it wasn't bad though, by any means), the characters were very developed, and involved the audience. Also, the plot twists were fairly surprising, and although a few may have been predictable, the wachowskis did a good job of keeping the movie entertaining. Perhaps people were disappointed with the way the story has turned out because it differed from what their interpretations may have been of the first movie. That's one of the best qualities of the first, that it actually caused people to think, and thus it's hard to come up with plot twists to satisfy people who've already considered a myriad of possibilities. Even so, people will go to see the movie to see if they've been right, and there's pleasure in finding out what happens next.
You call this movie shit, but I would think that you'll be back in the theaters this November. I don't mean for this to come off as an affront, just as a discussion, so...yeah.__________________
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Posted by .aS.|5p!7f!|23 on 05-18-2003 08:23 PM:
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Originally posted by AjY 2k
cuz im bored here are my thoughts on the matrix reloaded.
this movie was just to sell the third one. There were no new ideas (like the first one), which made it not as interesting, and the plot was shit.
i kinda agree. another example i was thinkin of is the second star wars. it was good but it was pretty much a suspense builder.
Posted by azn0monk on 05-18-2003 09:34 PM:
the matrix has a lot of things behind it someone looking for action won't find. makes you think about things.... i like that shit as long as it isn't carried out too far..
along with the heavily emphasized chinese choreography..can't go wrong with that.
unlike attack of the clones type of sequel, it didn't have senseless bullshit with some flashy effects to keep its legs up..
Posted by rawr itz errinn on 05-19-2003 01:40 AM:
screw the matrix. 
it was an okay movie despite everyone's extremely high expectations
Posted by krnxkid on 05-20-2003 02:32 AM:
im gona watch it on friday 
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