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Posted by KPak-NC on 09-21-2002 09:00 PM:

Interracial datings

ok, this is more of a dabate....

Everyone is familar with the term banana right? Anyway, why do asian girls consistanly date nonasians if theres conquences?

Example - Some white guys might think that asian girls are sex objects or sex dolls, yet asian women still date them?

Do they find asian women more attractive or is it just because they are better at sex?

I know not all people are like this, but its common these days.

Then about about the scene in Rush Hour 2 , with the asian females behind the wall? What image was that suppose to show? That asian women are sex dolls?


Posted by ibabiExbOrai on 09-21-2002 09:14 PM:

oOfz..i knO...-____-;; alotta asian women seem too be looked at as "sex" objectz or sum shiet pisses mee off though....its so degrading for us..buh....i dunno me personally...id juss stiCk to datin koreanz..juss cuhz id feel more comfortable..and thats lyke the way it iss ...:x i guess white guyz juss lyke tha way asianz "look".....T_T


Posted by PsychoSnowman on 09-21-2002 09:22 PM:

what consequences are you talking about?

Anyway, people are stupid, people are smart...whatever it's their choice. There isn't one set rationale. Some care about what society thinks, and others don't...i don't see what you are asking exactly.

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Posted by Crazydeb8ter on 09-21-2002 09:26 PM:

i just have a problem with race fetishes.

which in the case of asian interracial dating, is what it usually turns out being.

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Posted by PsychoSnowman on 09-21-2002 09:34 PM:

but everyone has a fetish. A fetish is just a more established preference, if that at all. Racial fetishes aren't anything different than other fetishes. People who don't like to date blonds, but like brunettes...that is one. Also those who like tall guys, that is a fetish as well. The examples can go on forever.

There really is no difference between a racial fetish and any other dating preference. Everyone is objectified to an extent.

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Posted by KPak-NC on 09-21-2002 09:45 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by PsychoSnowman
but everyone has a fetish. A fetish is just a more established preference, if that at all. Racial fetishes aren't anything different than other fetishes. People who don't like to date blonds, but like brunettes...that is one. Also those who like tall guys, that is a fetish as well. The examples can go on forever.

There really is no difference between a racial fetish and any other dating preference. Everyone is objectified to an extent.



Race fetish is like -

Whiteguy : damn, i hear asian females are into sex and are good at it, guess i will date one...

Or people who have yellow fever....is that not correct?

I think its because of those damn import models. Some are dressing too little with fake body parts half exposed...


Posted by PsychoSnowman on 09-21-2002 10:02 PM:

i was going to be sarcastic, but no one ever picks up on it. So...

Yes, i know...My point wasn't that i didn't know what it was hahah , but rather that there isn't a difference between different fetishes.

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Posted by Crazydeb8ter on 09-21-2002 10:22 PM:

yes there is.

there is a difference between a garter fetish and per se, a fetish for latinas.

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Posted by KPak-NC on 09-22-2002 12:47 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by PsychoSnowman
i was going to be sarcastic, but no one ever picks up on it. So...

Yes, i know...My point wasn't that i didn't know what it was hahah , but rather that there isn't a difference between different fetishes.



oh, im sorry.


Posted by kRypTic_nABi on 09-22-2002 08:15 AM:

personally..i've never heard of people thinking that asian women are sex objects..or are good at sex for that matter..
and the part where you said "asian women are better at sex"
..disagreed
not saying that they suck at it..but how can anyone judge whether or not someone is good or bad at sex when they havent had sex with every other male/female in the world?
whatever...i'm over it~
anyway..the consequence thing..i dont understand what consequences...its just what that person likes..
maybe they like the attention?
its just their opinion..


Posted by PsychoSnowman on 09-22-2002 05:31 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Crazydeb8ter
yes there is.

there is a difference between a garter fetish and per se, a fetish for latinas.



please, explain.

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Posted by Crazydeb8ter on 09-22-2002 07:49 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by PsychoSnowman


please, explain.



don't care enough to explain

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Posted by Ladi Jay on 09-22-2002 09:38 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Crazydeb8ter


don't care enough to explain



no no... explain! I wanna know and I'm sure they wanna know too!


anyways... I find this very pointless. why does it matter that a caucasian(sp?) dates an asian? or a black dates a hispanic? etc etc

everyone has their own taste or "fetish"... for instance, I guess my fetish is dating tall guys...

Kevin, I really don't understand your question either


Posted by PsychoSnowman on 09-22-2002 09:54 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Ladi Jay


no no... explain! I wanna know and I'm sure they wanna know too!


anyways... I find this very pointless. why does it matter that a caucasian(sp?) dates an asian? or a black dates a hispanic? etc etc

everyone has their own taste or "fetish"... for instance, I guess my fetish is dating tall guys...

Kevin, I really don't understand your question either



haha, this is sweet, i agree with julie! Usually i don't, but it's cool. Anyway, the reason it matters that a caucasian dates an asian is because...heaven forbid it might be dubbed a fetish haha, thats what's wrong with it. It'd be atrocious. Especially cause the advocators of fetishes being bad and different in this thread, have given us so many reasons to show why it is bad and how it's different. I must say i'm thoroughly convinced. haha, jp guys. (the last part was sarcastic for those who can't tell.)

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Posted by Crazydeb8ter on 09-22-2002 10:06 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Ladi Jay
no no... explain! I wanna know and I'm sure they wanna know too!


so. i don't really care that you want to know, i just don't feel like explaining.



but if you so insist, I will give a brief rundown of this issue.
The arguments of interracial dating break down into two ideas: Traditionalism and Liberalism. Liberalism NOT in the sense of social reform or human rights activism, but in the sense of being able to do whatever you want because, well, liberalism holds no bounds.
Now, people are mostly divided into two subgroups in accordance to these ideas, with scattered amounts in between.
Because this argument revolves around internalized beliefs on mating and relationships, one very well can not persuade another that their side is justified, or vice versa (this is flexible).

There will be no resolution.

Thus I do not feel that I would get anywhere by explaining anything to people of differing opinions because it would seem blantantly incorrect or wrong to them. However, this goes the same way vice versa.

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Posted by PsychoSnowman on 09-22-2002 10:17 PM:

<sarcasm>that certainly would be pointless. I mean, man, people having two differing sides of opinion would make debating it pointless </sarcasm>...oh damn, nevermind, that's what makes a debate a debate. Here's a better question, what debate doesn't revolve around internalized beliefs?

It's not impossible to sway people to think the other way like you make it seem, nor is that the point of a debate forum. It is to get both sides explained, and developed. Maybe even we can learn something, or maybe see the other side and realize that it is better than ours or vice versa.

And on what you said, how does liberalism and traditionalism have anything to do with fetishes? A traditional relationship could be considered a fetish as well, so could a liberalist one. I don't see what you mean. You really didn't explain anything except what liberalism is.

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Posted by Crazydeb8ter on 09-22-2002 10:37 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by PsychoSnowman
And on what you said, how does liberalism and traditionalism have anything to do with fetishes? A traditional relationship could be considered a fetish as well, so could a liberalist one. I don't see what you mean.


Traditionalist= largely against interracial dating while being closeminded.
Liberalist= Believes in free love, while being naive.

quote:
Originally posted by PsychoSnowman
You really didn't explain anything except what liberalism is.


that was my point.

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Posted by PsychoSnowman on 09-22-2002 11:14 PM:

julie asked you to elaborate on why certain fetishes are different from another. All you did was outline two different dating mindsets.

Thank you victor, i know what they mean, but you quoted my post and still didn't answer it....how does that link to fetishes? The only thing you did was throw out two words, and defined them. That really doesn't answer anything at all. Well it answers something, but not what you were quoting, or whatever.

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Posted by KPak-NC on 09-22-2002 11:14 PM:

Thanks for clearing things for me over AIM.


Thanks Ladi Jay


Posted by Crazydeb8ter on 09-22-2002 11:29 PM:

having liberal thought makes one more naive in some ways, and makes them succeptable to race fetishes.

Fetishes are inbred preferences, as you (David) said, that puts more emphasis on the outward being of a person, as opposed to internal qualities, and in this case personality. If one likes someone just because they're a certain race, then that should be frowned upon, because that is a prime example of superficialism (if that is even a word).

But again, i must reiterate, since it appears as some of you are misunderstanding, I am not against interracial dating. I am against race fetishes.

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