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Posted by niggoreanboi on 09-26-2002 01:47 AM:

which Philosophers do u

hear about most? like n school and stuff

Posted by Crazydeb8ter on 09-26-2002 02:34 AM:

foucalt, heidegger, marx, hobbes, spanos

damn whos the dude who encouraged mass killings in order to ensure the future of humankind

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Posted by eddiee on 09-26-2002 02:36 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Crazydeb8ter
foucalt, heidegger, marx, hobbes, spanos

damn whos the dude who encouraged mass killings in order to ensure the future of humankind


stalon or something ..dude from russia?

Posted by tm11 on 09-26-2002 02:54 AM:

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Originally posted by Crazydeb8ter
foucalt, heidegger, marx, hobbes, spanos

damn whos the dude who encouraged mass killings in order to ensure the future of humankind


Reverend Thomas Malthus, and he wasn't much of a philosopher, he just had warped views on overpopulation. He didn't encourage mass killings, just condoned "population controllers."

I think it's more fair to say that most kids in school don't ever hear about heidegger or spanos, they might hear about foucault, they probably have heard about of hobbes and marx though. I think most kids are at least familiar with the Greeks, Plato, Aristotle, etc.... Then if you take a math class you're bound to hear about Renee Descartes. If you take philosophy classes that are sometimes offered in certain secondary schools, you'd probably hear about those people as well as Spinoza, Kierkegaard, and others... haha, too many to list. But I don't think many philosophy classes are offered in the average secondary school...

EDIT - if you take debate then you'd probably hear about all these philosophers and more, including all the ones victor listed, there's many more where those came from though..

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Posted by TyGer STyLe on 09-26-2002 03:47 AM:

its a shame how we don't really learn about philosophy and philosophers much in high school... the closest class they provide for that field is psychology at our school... i personally am not one to really find intrest in philosophy but it does spark some intrest and its sad that such a great class isn't offered to students... personally i know some of the greek/roman philosophers (mainly the famous ones everyone in the whole damn world knows) and marx, hobbes, descartes (didn't he invent some mathematical formula? i ferget), and such... but as for the others its my first time hearing about them... i feel deprived already...

hey by the way was freud a philosopher? or was he a psychotic psychologist? haha dunno...

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Posted by PsychoSnowman on 09-26-2002 04:44 AM:

yeah, we really only have one class that could feasibly be called a philosophy class. It really isn't because we never learn about them at all, it's just a discussion class where we talk about it, called Theory of Knowledge. Anyway, philosophers that you'd hear about in that class have pretty much been named: Marx, Artistotle, Plato, Spinoza, Freud, Descartes, Kant. It's a really western class despite how much they say it's not. It's a nice class though

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Posted by Crazydeb8ter on 09-26-2002 04:48 AM:

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Originally posted by tm11
Reverend Thomas Malthus, and he wasn't much of a philosopher, he just had warped views on overpopulation. He didn't encourage mass killings, just condoned "population controllers."


ah yea thats it..thanks tommy. One of the other novices used a malthus file continuosly throughout the year on neg. hahaah. Funny shit because they complained about it since their first round using it.

quote:
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its a shame how we don't really learn about philosophy and philosophers much in high school... the closest class they provide for that field is psychology at our school


yea it really is a shame :sad: learning philosophy strengthens the mind's capabilities to process thoughts and arguments.

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Posted by niggoreanboi on 09-28-2002 09:44 PM:

yea high skoo don't talk bout philosophers much but my modernworld history he dedicated a whole quarter on it so yea i gain sum knowledge bout it

Posted by Zero-Sen on 09-30-2002 02:36 AM:

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and you open that door and you step inside
we're inside our hearts
now imagine your pain is a white ball of healing light
that's right, that's your pain
the pain itself is a white ball of healing light
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"This is your life
good to the last drop
doesn't get any better than this
this is your life
and its ending one minute at a time"

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where you are now, you can't even imagine what the bottom looked like
only after disaster can we be ressurected
its only after you've lost everything, that you're free to do anything
nothing is static
everything is evolving
everything is falling apart"

"you are not a beautiful and unique snowflake
you are the same decaying organic matter as everything else
we are all part of the same compost heap
we are the all singing all dancing crap of the world"

"you are not your bank account
you are not the clothes you wear
you are not the contents of you wallet
you are not your bowel cancer
you are not your friday latte
you are not the car you drive
you are not your fucking khakis"

"you have to give up"

"you have to realize that someday you will die
until you know that you are useless"

"i say let me never be complete
i say may i never be content
i say deliver me from swedish furniture
i say deliver me from clever arts
i say deliver me from clear skin and perfect teeth
i say you have to give up
i say evolve and let the chips fall wear the may"

"you are not your job
you're not how much money you have in the bank
you're not the car you drive
you're not the contents of your wallet
you're not your fucking khakis
you are the all singing all dancing crap of the world"

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Posted by tm11 on 09-30-2002 09:11 AM:

those quotes are from tyler durden, get it right man

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Posted by Zero-Sen on 09-30-2002 09:00 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by tm11
those quotes are from tyler durden, get it right man

same difference

Posted by Alchemist on 10-02-2002 10:33 PM:

Well we learned about Rousseau and he seemed really cool. But then my friend pointed out that he had sex with a 13 yr. old milk maid repeatedly. :sad:



Voltare seems really cool too. He was a jerk but if you go around believing every rumor you hear, you'll end up with no friends.

Posted by sangxjin on 10-07-2002 03:40 AM:

aristotle was the man.

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Posted by PsychoSnowman on 10-07-2002 06:44 AM:

the only reason i can see aristotle so great is because he dismissed so many of plato's flawed ideals. Plato wrote some good stuff, but from what i've learned his whole "world of ideals" clouds over his "republic" stuff. I'm sure he did more, but from my limited knowledge, i think he was far too much into spirituality to be accepted today for what it is. I mean, it was all so theoretical, not that that's a bad thing but i can't believe that today. I'm sure aristotle did other great things, but that's all i know him for pretty much.

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Posted by aznkid1008 on 10-08-2002 12:35 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by sangxjin
aristotle was the man.

lol werd
and Albert Einstein

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Posted by bAsOOnEE012 on 10-10-2002 02:15 AM:

Talking

well...recently..we learned about 2....Socratesand renee decartes....socrates with the truth....(am I right?)...and decartes on if we existed...(I think therefor I am.)...remember that? our world history teacher is like a philosopher....he gets you thinking until your brain is out of your head...confusing tho...but I think some philiosophers are really...good...hmm..

Posted by tm11 on 10-10-2002 03:08 AM:

I don't think voltaire or einstein were really philosophers. Voltaire was a satirist, and Einstein was a physicist. Although, I suppose if you really want to consider their works philosophy you could.

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Posted by MiGhTy KiTTy on 10-19-2002 08:15 AM:

confucius..=X haha

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Posted by DaWhim on 10-19-2002 11:09 PM:

nobody mentions Adam Smith???
too bad, he is the father of economics

school doesn't teach much, but my social studies teach was a economist himself, so he talks alot of him.

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Posted by PsychoSnowman on 10-19-2002 11:44 PM:

i don't think adam smith is a philosopher. Just an economist/analyst.

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