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Re: Re: Re: *attention All Christians/catholics/buddhists/other Religous Believers*
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Originally posted by ajy
There was no jesus
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The ones who believe in the existence of God, especially Christians, have written many long books, short articles, and everything else in between trying to prove God's existence to the doubters. They have used examples from nature; they have constructed logical arguments using scientific facts and theories and philosophical considerations. The nonbelievers have also written many books and articles trying to show that God does not exist. The believers remain believers; the doubters remain doubters. Usually, nothing much is gained for either side by these arguments.
In order to find a person, we need to find where the person is. In order to contact something, we need to know the realm in which that thing exists. Where is God? What realm is God living in? Where is man? What realm is man living in? Is there a common realm in which the two may meet?... It is also impossible to substantiate God in the mental or psychological realm... His wisdom is too great for the limited mind of man to comprehend. Mankind has not fathomed the wonders of nature; we can fully grasp neither life, nor death, nor existence after death. We have not yet explored all the different forms of life on this planet,.. including micro-organisms and mammoth creatures of past and present. We have not yet fully explored teh microcosm and macrocosm of this universe. We have not yet fully unearthed our own past history, nor can we be certain of what will happen in our future, even in such simple matters as the weather or the timing of the next earthquake. Mankind does not even understand himself, so how can we ever begin to understand the Designer and Creator of the universe, or comprehend the purpose for which all things (and we ourselves) were made? God is too colossal, universal, and multifarious in wisdom; no matter how long we ponder, we can never imagine what heis really like and what he wants. Finite beings have a natural limitation comprehending the infinite One. It is harder for a man to understand God than it is for a worm to understand man.
Re: *attention All Christians/catholics/buddhists/other Religous Believers*
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Originally posted by ajy
God isnt real, get over it.
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thats why its called faith. theres no real sure way to prove that either God exists or not. so you cant just say He does or He doesnt, its what you believe and your issues with your faith.
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Originally posted by J-DraGoNz
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thats why its called faith. theres no real sure way to prove that either God exists or not. so you cant just say He does or He doesnt, its what you believe and your issues with your faith.
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How do you know God is imaginary and not real?
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Originally posted by Alchemist
How do you know God is imaginary and not real?
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Originally posted by hnefrdo
how do you know God is real and not imaginary? that's the way it works. if i told yu i saw a three headed monster with each head that looked like one of your cousins, you wouldn't believe me until i could prove it, and you definitely would not believe it and then tell sumone else about it asking him to disprove the idea. it's the same thang.
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Originally posted by Alchemist
You're the one suggesting that God is imaginary. You are the one who said God was made up by someone and compared him to an imaginary friend.
You're the one trying to impose your beliefs on others.
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Re: Re: *attention All Christians/catholics/buddhists/other Religous Believers*
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Originally posted by hnefrdo
i actually agree with ajy on this one. some of yu believers came back with "how do yu kno he doesn't exist?" well, how do yu kno he does?
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Originally posted by castle outsider
dude teddy do you know what the hell you just said..you said attention religious people, god is real..as if they werent thinking about that already
whyd you have to quote me julie..now i look like a crap sucking atheist. i was just trying to make fun of the things he was saying cause he brought up dead people comming back alive and i thought it was funny.
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Originally posted by hnefrdo
im asking how anyone, if anyone, knows that he exists or existed at one time.
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Originally posted by hnefrdo
i actually agree with ajy on this one. some of yu believers came back with "how do yu kno he doesn't exist?" well, how do yu kno he does?
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Originally posted by hnefrdo
im not trying to start a war here, but yu'd all think im crazy if i made up a guy in my head (an imaginary frend), and completely had faith in him and believed he exists. God is the same thing, only sumone else made him up a long time ago. haha.
Will it really matter? You're all going to die (well, as far as I know )and find out, or not find out... Unless you're planning on being evil...
Personally, I'm agnostic... I live my life as if there were a God, to "play it safe", but I have more of a disbelief in God... I don't feel like going through the reasoning...
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By.....me...Although I'm sure some one thought of that before me...
here's wut it comes down to, alchem. i can't proof that he doesn't exist, and no one can prove that he does. if sumone told another without proof that santa clause exists, the listener wouldn't believe him and then try to find a reason to disprove. the rational person would ask for proof first, unless if he were an iggnorant lil kiddy.
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Originally posted by hnefrdo
here's wut it comes down to, alchem. i can't proof that he doesn't exist, and no one can prove that he does. if sumone told another without proof that santa clause exists, the listener wouldn't believe him and then try to find a reason to disprove. the rational person would ask for proof first, unless if he were an iggnorant lil kiddy.
read over my last post with anything else in place of "santa clause."
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christ people. theres no point in beating a dead horse.
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"The weight of this sad time we must obey,/ Speak what we feel, not what we ought to say./ The oldest hath borne most; we that are young/ Shall never see so much, nor live so long."
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Originally posted by hnefrdo
read over my last post with anything else in place of "santa clause."
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Originally posted by Crazydeb8ter
christ people. theres no point in beating a dead horse.
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