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Do technological advancements make war more destructive or antiseptic, and therefore more acceptable?
goodness no.
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i think understanding is only one way of obtaining peace. I agree it's very likely that peace can be reached through violence as well, why not? is the question.
And, in regards to the initial posed question...i think it's stupid. War doesn't become more acceptable. The nuclear arms race is proof of that. It's become all the more taboo, and frowned upon. Think about it, that's why conventional war is the only "acceptable" form of war. As in, a compromise of war methodology. The general tenet is that war shouldn't involve higher forms of technology because they are so dangerous, nuclear, bio, radiological, chemical, whatever. It's not making it more acceptable, if it was we'd be fighting with those, (i know that's not the only reason, second strikes is a reason as is many others, no need to point out the flaws in my logif.
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War is never acceptable. The idea of a scale of "acceptability" is ludricrous.
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But do you believe war is a way to achieve peace?
Technological advancements will always occur and make war more destructive, therefore, I believe it is not acceptable...
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Originally posted by Ladi Jay
But do you believe war is a way to achieve peace?
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Originally posted by Ladi Jay
But do you believe war is a way to achieve peace?
peace treaty...
quote:Actually, your side does not actually write the treaty. There is a conference in a neutral country and they agree on points. However, you get to make the demands and sometimes they are forced to accept their demands.
Originally posted by Alchemist
If you win the war, you get to write the peace treaty. (Well not you per se.)
Re: peace treaty...
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Originally posted by kryogenix
Actually, your side does not actually write the treaty. There is a conference in a neutral country and they agree on points. However, you get to make the demands and sometimes they are forced to accept their demands.![]()
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that should always be read in a matter-of-fact tone.
"Those womyn that seek equality with men, lack determination."
"I beseech you, in the bowels of Christ, think it possible you may be wrong."
-Cromwell
I would like to know... why does society/government/etc. spend so much money on distructions like that when we already have anough nuclear bombs to blow up Earth? Why do we spend that kind of money to make such machines? Can't we spend money on things that are more conservative? Something that'll actually help out instead of kill---perhaps spending money on research of cancer and how to cure it? Why do what we do base itself on wants instead of needs?
All this confuddles me... it makes me angry... what we can do to help, instead we do for a want...
for instance, eugenics... cloning... those unnecessary things should not even be done...
to what I see, everything we do revolves around money and we can do better things with money instead of nuisance things like so...
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Originally posted by Ladi Jay
I would like to know... why does society/government/etc. spend so much money on distructions like that when we already have anough nuclear bombs to blow up Earth?
governments spend money to support weapons of mass destruction because of neccesity and of fear. Fear was manifest during the Cold War era wherein we had the arms race against Russia, as Twinkie mentioned. Now that the Soviet Union has fallen, we have "disarmed (a misnomer term btw)" a bunch of our weapons, but we still keep some ready lest we be caught unaware. In that respect, the US government is correct. We cannot be too naive in thinking that if we threw down our weapons and started trusting everyone, then everyone would love us back. It doesn't work that way. On the topic of neccesity, maintaining nuclear weapons just takes a shitload of money. That is a fact.
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Why do what we do base itself on wants instead of needs?
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Can't we spend money on things that are more conservative?
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"The weight of this sad time we must obey,/ Speak what we feel, not what we ought to say./ The oldest hath borne most; we that are young/ Shall never see so much, nor live so long."
King Lear (V.3.300-304)
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Originally posted by Ladi Jay
I would like to know... why does society/government/etc. spend so much money on distructions like that when we already have anough nuclear bombs to blow up Earth? Why do we spend that kind of money to make such machines? Can't we spend money on things that are more conservative? Something that'll actually help out instead of kill---perhaps spending money on research of cancer and how to cure it? Why do what we do base itself on wants instead of needs?
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Remember the heros
Remember the lives
Remember the day
God bless
-edit-accidently quoted instead of edit
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ni pour ni contre; ça m'est égal
"The weight of this sad time we must obey,/ Speak what we feel, not what we ought to say./ The oldest hath borne most; we that are young/ Shall never see so much, nor live so long."
King Lear (V.3.300-304)
quote:
Originally posted by Ladi Jay
I would like to know... why does society/government/etc. spend so much money on distructions like that when we already have anough nuclear bombs to blow up Earth? Why do we spend that kind of money to make such machines?
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Can't we spend money on things that are more conservative? Something that'll actually help out instead of kill---perhaps spending money on research of cancer and how to cure it?
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Why do what we do base itself on wants instead of needs?
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All this confuddles me... it makes me angry... what we can do to help, instead we do for a want...
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for instance, eugenics... cloning... those unnecessary things should not even be done...
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to what I see, everything we do revolves around money and we can do better things with money instead of nuisance things like so...![]()
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rather they reflect nothing more than a response of insight
that should always be read in a matter-of-fact tone.
"Those womyn that seek equality with men, lack determination."
"I beseech you, in the bowels of Christ, think it possible you may be wrong."
-Cromwell
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Originally posted by aznkid1008
alrite in ur mind u want the USA to be completely and sadly DEFENCELESS. good idea, NO ITS NOT. we r not completely militaristic, we spend money on missle DEFENCE systems and incase a war does come we r preparin. hav u ever heard of the Manhattan Project durin world war 2? if it wasnt for the nuke we would hav had 2 kill even more people on both sides in order 2 defeat Japan.
hav u been under a rock? u want things like 9/11 2 happen again?
i originally was against wat Psytek thought but now i see the light
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Originally posted by PsychoSnowman
I like eugenics and cloning. Unnecessary? Ok fine, but if we find a cure to cancer through cloning research...is it unnecessary? That's what you wanted, right?
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Originally posted by Ladi Jay
sorrie, I should have made that clear... I meant cloning people, not organs...
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btw, thanks for answering my questions all... this debate section is real help!![]()
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that should always be read in a matter-of-fact tone.
"Those womyn that seek equality with men, lack determination."
"I beseech you, in the bowels of Christ, think it possible you may be wrong."
-Cromwell
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Originally posted by PsychoSnowman
no, i know what you were implying. I don't think they are isolatory at all. Cloning people would lead to more research which could help find a cure to cancer. I don't think you can isolate the two and say one helps and the other doesn't. And again, i like cloning...let's do it.
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