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Posted by merc on 02-06-2003 11:33 PM:

Drinking, Smoking, the works.

What are you opinions on it?

For or Against -
.elaborate.

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Posted by .aS.|5p!7f!|23 on 02-07-2003 12:06 AM:

im pretty much neutral. i used to be a big druggy (sp?) but now i run track so i dont see the need for it. i think now that the two are pretty much for people who are really shallow and cant have fun without being under the influence. i dont hate on people for doing it but i dont think people should go around making people not be able to do it. follow me? i think i used people too much. (as in the word)


Posted by ajy on 02-07-2003 12:14 AM:

for

if you want to get lifted, have a fun time. nothing to do with me. if it fucks up your life, then its your fault for making that decision but i had nothing to do with it.


Posted by PsychoSnowman on 02-07-2003 12:53 AM:

don't really care, if anything i'm for it. Helps the economy, helps people with problems, causes problems, and more. I don't likle inhibiting what people do though, so of course i'd never be against it.

I don't htink they are for shallow people though, i mean people can have fun without being on drugs. They don't have to have no other reason to do it, specifically the casual smoker...does one of these peopel just never have fun until they smoke? that's what you make it sound like, if they smoke...it must be to have fun...i mean there's no other possible reason (sarcasm)

Furthermore, i'd just like to say i hate that ad that says "kissing a girl who smokes is like licking an ashtray"....why all the hating on it? it's stupid, just like all the ill commericials that try and antagonize drug companies ("truth").

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Posted by Crazydeb8ter on 02-07-2003 06:59 AM:

ah don't forget those asinine "doing drugs supports terrorism" commercials.

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Posted by aznkid1008 on 02-07-2003 04:21 PM:

drinking is alrite as long as the person can control themselves and does NOT get drunk. smoking i am so against. the person does not just kill themselves but people around them. might as well put a gun to their head and ask them if u want to just make it quicker.

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Posted by .aS.|5p!7f!|23 on 02-07-2003 05:25 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Crazydeb8ter
ah don't forget those asinine "doing drugs supports terrorism" commercials.


hah yeah now they got ones saying if you buy an suv you support terrorism cause of the gas usage. i wonder that if u buy one of those hybrid cars you only support terrorism when ur goin up a hill. hmm i dunno.


Posted by requiem on 02-07-2003 06:02 PM:

Personally I'm against smoking. Not against drinking, or else I'd be a hypocrite.
As for everyone else, I can't take away their right to do such things so why bother.

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Posted by PsychoSnowman on 02-08-2003 04:40 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by aznkid1008
drinking is alrite as long as the person can control themselves and does NOT get drunk. smoking i am so against. the person does not just kill themselves but people around them. might as well put a gun to their head and ask them if u want to just make it quicker.


we might as well take away cars then too, their pollution kills people too.

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Posted by Alchemist on 02-09-2003 01:29 AM:

Smoking can dangerous but also useful.

I would just use Coffee or somthing.


Posted by aznkid1008 on 02-09-2003 04:36 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by PsychoSnowman
we might as well take away cars then too, their pollution kills people too.

for those who drink and drive the law alrdy put that down. but not all people who get drunk drive. some go to parties wit friends that dont drink. those people actually care about there own lives and the safety of others.

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Posted by PsychoSnowman on 02-09-2003 05:04 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by aznkid1008
for those who drink and drive the law alrdy put that down. but not all people who get drunk drive. some go to parties wit friends that dont drink. those people actually care about there own lives and the safety of others.


that wasn't the point. The parallel was that people who smoke exercise the same task that people who drive do. They wish to do something, and are effectually affecting people's health by their exaust or smoke whichever the instance. By saying smoking is unique in it's effectual killing of other people is disregarding all the other things that do that and just antagonizes smokers more. Like i said, under your mentality we should be against driving as well. That's isolatory from drinking though, so no need to bring that up as i didn't even respond to that part of your post (not that i need to i know, but it didn't connect the ideas or anythign).

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Posted by Spuzzter on 02-10-2003 08:31 PM:

My body is a temple...

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Posted by ajy on 02-10-2003 08:51 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Spuzzter
My body is a temple...


if you dont want to elaborate, dont post things like this and leave us to question it


Posted by merc on 02-10-2003 09:08 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Spuzzter
My body is a temple...


1 Corinthians 6:19
Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own;

amen.

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Posted by Ladi Jay on 02-11-2003 02:38 AM:

I don't like alcohol or drugs... I don't like to be around it, I can't stand it, I just don't like it...


Posted by PsychoSnowman on 02-12-2003 11:03 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by Ladi Jay
I don't like alcohol or drugs... I don't like to be around it, I can't stand it, I just don't like it...


just curious, what's your stance on the issue then given your distaste for it? for or against?

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Posted by aznkid1008 on 02-13-2003 02:48 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by PsychoSnowman
that wasn't the point. The parallel was that people who smoke exercise the same task that people who drive do. They wish to do something, and are effectually affecting people's health by their exaust or smoke whichever the instance. By saying smoking is unique in it's effectual killing of other people is disregarding all the other things that do that and just antagonizes smokers more. Like i said, under your mentality we should be against driving as well. That's isolatory from drinking though, so no need to bring that up as i didn't even respond to that part of your post (not that i need to i know, but it didn't connect the ideas or anythign).

o oops i guess i read that the wrong way
well if u ment it that way some r actually accidents, but in america we do hav many idiots and crazy people on the roads. only thing i got a suggestion for on that is to make the drivin test harder and make public transportation better i dunno im not 2 sure on that topic. and personally my mentality changes between topics and i believe many people do that 2. drugs to car accidents is apples to oranges, 2 different things.

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Posted by kryogenix on 02-13-2003 07:10 PM:

smoking

i'm against all off that, although I don't understand why people are suing companies for getting cancer from cigarrettes. how come the fat guy who sued mcdonald's won't win even though he is in the same situation as the guys who sue the cigarettes companies. don't get me wrong, i think he's not going to win a suit, just that it isn't fair to him if this country is supposed to be an "equal rights country."


Posted by Alchemist on 02-14-2003 12:15 AM:

I see cigarettes and alcohol as weapons and tools.


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