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Gays, Lesbians, Straights

Do you think that gays and lesbians are truly disgusting? Why? What is wrong with those who just have a different sex orientation? Share share share! I wanna know why people think that gays and lesbians are not good people....

well, if u think on religion terms...it's considered wrong cause God made man and woman for each other and ONLY each other. but personally...i have nothing against them...i mean, it's their life so why should i care? but i do get all 'eiffy' when i see a gay/lesbian couple but other than that, i'm all koo. hmm...i wonder if that makes me a 'bad' christian for saying all that... :huh:

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hah, julie you were here when this thread got started near the beginning of jsl, there are newer people here now though, so it's all good i guess

it's all fine and great. I don't think it ok cause it's "their choice, so why should i care" though, (not singling you out jJ2, please don't think i am, cause i'm not i hear this everywhere), it doesn't matter even if it was their choice cause it's not bad at all. Anyway, it just doesn't matter cause there isn't anything wrong with it to begin with.

Like someone who never wears jeans, and wears sweatpants all the time. I really do think this is that stupid. Ok, so someone is wearing sweatpants...nothing wrong with that, someone is wearing jeans, nothing wrong with that either. Same with homosexuality and hetero-ness, i don't care it's as feeble a difference as my jean/sweat pants example. It doesn't matter even if it is their choice, there's nothing wrong with it to begin with.

I don't mind seeing them around in public, just like i don't mind seeing heterosexual couples out in public. I wish i saw it more often so the biggoting people of society would finally have to get used to it, and expand their small mind.

On a whole, i think homosexual people are nicer than heterosexual people. Yep, a generalization, but i'm sure people will agree.

I hope no one brings up the point about "as long as thye don't hit on me, it's cool." I think that's so lame, they aren't going to cause it's easy to sense homophobia cause people make it so apparent often. They aren't going to hit on you cause they can tell, and moreso...stop flattering yourself, as if every person of the same sex is going to hit on you. Yeah you didn't say that, but that's what it comes off as. If they do, be flattered. It's just like if you are a guy and this ugly girl or just a girl you don't like hits on you, do you think that is disgusting? probably not, or maybe so but not in the severity i hear homophobic people talk of it...ah.

That's why i don't like religion that much. It's so evil that it'd say homosexuality is bad, and generalize like that. Leviticus 18:22 . So, atheism for me . My own code, and not an evil one in my mind.

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well... in my own opinion, because i am christian, i have strong feelings against it... im not going to say im okay with it because im not... but im not a person to bash on gay and lesbians... i'll tolerate, and i won't hold being gay or lesbian against anyone... to me there just people with a different sexual peference... its like being from a different country, just its something to be understood but not to be afraid of... this does not mean in anyway taht i condone homosexuality... i just see it as something to be tolerated and understood...

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Originally posted by PsychoSnowman
it's all fine and great. I don't think it ok cause it's "their choice, so why should i care" though, (not singling you out jJ2, please don't think i am, cause i'm not i hear this everywhere)...

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as long as they don't hit on me, im cool with them.

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Originally posted by Crazydeb8ter
as long as they don't hit on me, im cool with them.

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ur like askin us who we want to see havin sex
well not no gay guy
of course lez

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Originally posted by XxAzNViPeRBoIxX
ur like askin us who we want to see havin sex

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i'm just as confused as u r

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haha, i got it. reread it like 5 times and you might get it. It's the normal biggoting view of heterosexuals saying "yeah i want to see girls get it on but not guys" and then proclaiming "no no i'm not gay!". You know accentuating ones masculinity by saying they like two girls getting it on. He just couldn't convey it what he meant properly. And, that he's completely misinterpreting the topic and everything haha. It's not even about who people want to see have sex....where did you get that from?

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Originally posted by PsychoSnowman
And, that he's completely misinterpreting the topic and everything haha. It's not even about who people want to see have sex....where did you get that from?

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being a christian i am against it. on personal terms im not sure. i mean a very very large amount of the gay population dont just sit down and decide "im goin to be gay". its from like abuse, no social life, etc. something that isnt right that pushed them off the cliff but not 2 "insanity" but made them gay. so is being gay being mentally unstable? its from the same causes that cause other mental diseases. yea i think its wrong but i also think its not always somethin that they hav control over.

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as a Christian, i see it as plainly wrong.....but if i kno someone is gay/lesbian, i dont really care, bcuz it is none of my business n hatin sumone is wrong too

i also have heard several discussions on gays/lesbians, n one thing i remember said that there is no excuse for homosexuality....it is a choice no matter what....so then from the Christian perspective, it is sin, that the wrong choice was made....im also not an expert in debating these issues....i would have to ask sumone else lyk my pastor or sumtin for more info on exactly why

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Originally posted by az0nd2r3
as a Christian, i see it as plainly wrong.....but if i kno someone is gay/lesbian, i dont really care, bcuz it is none of my business n hatin sumone is wrong too

i also have heard several discussions on gays/lesbians, n one thing i remember said that there is no excuse for homosexuality....it is a choice no matter what....so then from the Christian perspective, it is sin, that the wrong choice was made....im also not an expert in debating these issues....i would have to ask sumone else lyk my pastor or sumtin for more info on exactly why

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-Cromwell

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Originally posted by Jj2
well, if u think on religion terms...it's considered wrong cause God made man and woman for each other and ONLY each other. but personally...i have nothing against them...i mean, it's their life so why should i care? but i do get all 'eiffy' when i see a gay/lesbian couple but other than that, i'm all koo. hmm...i wonder if that makes me a 'bad' christian for saying all that... :huh:

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a lot of you are saying, "as a christian... blah blah blah" but in the bible, doesn't is say that you should appreciate who you are and who others are because that's the way God created you/them? so basically, no one can help if they are either straight or gay so they should be appreciated as they are and not labeled as "wrong"...

oh yeah, I find it very distracting that people have to first be known as "gay" "lesbian" or "bi-sexual" before they are known personally... or when friends say things like, "I have a friend who is gay."

I mean, do people say, "I have a friend who is straight." ? so why do we bring these things up like that?

some historical context here:

When the bible was being written, the population of hebrews was both small and was drastically being depleted through war with neighbors. Solution? Hetero-procreation. In order to reproduce with a very limited amount of peoeple, you can not condone a bunch of homosexuals running around, you need all the baby-making power you can get.

This is an explanation on why gays and homosexuals were indicted in the bible.

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