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Posted by Crazydeb8ter on 08-21-2003 02:15 AM:

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Originally posted by WE ARE MANDY
violent interpretation of Christianity is now accepted to be incorrect.


While I do agree with you with respect to the Nazi issue, i have a bit of trouble with that statement. There will always be varying concepts on the "correct" christian religion, with various groups claiming to hold the truth. Now given this situation, many such organizations and factions have fully accepted violence as a means to an end. For example, Christian fundamentalists even now have raised rallying cries and commited countless acts of violence against the gay community.
Further down on the scale (though not far), the KKK has continually used the christianity to justify their actions, which include lynching, burnings, murders, harassment, rape etc.

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Posted by WE ARE MANDY on 08-26-2003 04:17 AM:

It is true that fundamentalist groups use Christianity to justify their violent actions, but this is throwing the baby out with the bathwater. Just as Islam's "Jihad*" cannot be condemned because of terrorists and dictators, Christianity's inherent message that God is Love cannot be discounted because of the angry, troubled minority that uses this peaceful faith to justify its own aggression, for whatever reason it may find.

*This may be redundant, but Islamic scholars believe that the true meaning of Jihad in the Koran is something having to do with an inner struggle, of reaching beyond nature, of improving one's soul or something like that. No real physical war. I know we've all been bombarded with this since 9/11, but just in case anyone doesn't know, there you have it.

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Posted by Crazydeb8ter on 08-26-2003 04:29 AM:

Again, I agree with you, but i'm merely pointing out that the "truth" of something, especially a religion, is relative to everyone. When 100+ faiths believe that they hold God's true message, how can we decide which one is right? We cannot use our take on something to judge others'- unless of course, the law steps in, which is what should be happening with the nazi bar, but it seems like the south korean government doesn't give a shit about anything that did not affect them personally.


baby out with the bathwater? thats a new one lol.

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Posted by 2o9er on 08-27-2003 12:25 AM:

dose ppl r dumb..

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Posted by Alchemist on 08-27-2003 02:10 AM:

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Originally posted by Crazydeb8ter
Again, I agree with you, but i'm merely pointing out that the "truth" of something, especially a religion, is relative to everyone. When 100+ faiths believe that they hold God's true message, how can we decide which one is right? We cannot use our take on something to judge others'- unless of course, the law steps in, which is what should be happening with the nazi bar, but it seems like the south korean government doesn't give a shit about anything that did not affect them personally.


baby out with the bathwater? thats a new one lol.



That's a good expression.


The type of Christian bar that is to be opened would form my opinion then.


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