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must I restate myself AGAIN?
The death penalty only serves as a deterrent when the system is one like Turkeys: death is the punishment for a wide range of crimes.
In our society, where the death penalty is only used SPARSELY, criminals do not worry about it as much, and are not afraid to commit murder etc. because most likely, the death sentence would not be passed. Thus the fear of the death sentence has little or no effect upon their actions.
Here is an interesting quote from Herodotus, The Histories:
"No one has ever yet risked committing a crime which he thought he could not carry out successfully. The same is true of States. None has ever yet rebelled in the belief that it has insufficient resources, either in iteslef or from its allies, to make the attempt. Cities and individuals alike, all are by nature disposed to do wrong, and there is no law that will prevent it, as is shown by the fact that men have tried every kind of punishment, constantly adding to the list, in the attempt to find greater security from criminals...
...In a word it is impossible (and only the most simple-minded will deny this) for human nature, when once seriously set upon a certain course, to be prevented from that course by the force of law or by any other means of intimidation, whatever.
We must not, therefore, come to the wrong conclusions through having too much confidence in the effectiveness of capital punishment..."
- Herodotus, The Histories, The Mytilenian Debate
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"The weight of this sad time we must obey,/ Speak what we feel, not what we ought to say./ The oldest hath borne most; we that are young/ Shall never see so much, nor live so long."
King Lear (V.3.300-304)
OMG??? any of you guys ever hear of parole??????????
not every rapists/murders get life sentences you know... many get anywhere from 10-30 years... but they be out in 10 years with good conduct.... that's why the american jail system is sooo fucked up.... they let those faggots lose to commit more crimes... which is why i think they should either give life sentences more liberally or just kill them all... and bout those few people who are wrongly accused... IT WOULD REALLY SUCK to be them but the odds are like what 1 in a million??? besides....hey what can ya do???? nothing in this world is perfect... i'd rather have a person wrongly accused get the death penalty than see a murderer/rapists kill another person....
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Originally posted by Klumzy
which is why i think they should either give life sentences more liberally or just kill them all.
.. and bout those few people who are wrongly accused... IT WOULD REALLY SUCK to be them but the odds are like what 1 in a million??? besides....hey what can ya do????
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ni pour ni contre; ça m'est égal
"The weight of this sad time we must obey,/ Speak what we feel, not what we ought to say./ The oldest hath borne most; we that are young/ Shall never see so much, nor live so long."
King Lear (V.3.300-304)
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Originally posted by Crazydeb8ter
2) No, it isn't one in a million. Looking at the total number of death penalty cases in the last 100 years, the odds were 1 in 800. (Source: A guide to Justice -the book was old, perhaps the title is off)
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"The man of tomorrow is forged by his battles today."
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Originally posted by krnxswat
ok. and how big is britain and japan compared to America? compare britan and japn's population to America's population.
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Originally posted by Crazydeb8ter
must I restate myself AGAIN?
The death penalty only serves as a deterrent when the system is one like Turkeys: death is the punishment for a wide range of crimes.
In our society, where the death penalty is only used SPARSELY, criminals do not worry about it as much, and are not afraid to commit murder etc. because most likely, the death sentence would not be passed. Thus the fear of the death sentence has little or no effect upon their actions.
Here is an interesting quote from Herodotus, The Histories:
"No one has ever yet risked committing a crime which he thought he could not carry out successfully. The same is true of States. None has ever yet rebelled in the belief that it has insufficient resources, either in iteslef or from its allies, to make the attempt. Cities and individuals alike, all are by nature disposed to do wrong, and there is no law that will prevent it, as is shown by the fact that men have tried every kind of punishment, constantly adding to the list, in the attempt to find greater security from criminals...
...In a word it is impossible (and only the most simple-minded will deny this) for human nature, when once seriously set upon a certain course, to be prevented from that course by the force of law or by any other means of intimidation, whatever.
We must not, therefore, come to the wrong conclusions through having too much confidence in the effectiveness of capital punishment..."
- Herodotus, The Histories, The Mytilenian Debate
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Long messages do not equal aggravation of any sort,
rather they reflect nothing more than a response of insight
that should always be read in a matter-of-fact tone.
"Those womyn that seek equality with men, lack determination."
"I beseech you, in the bowels of Christ, think it possible you may be wrong."
-Cromwell
quote:
Originally posted by Klumzy
OMG??? any of you guys ever hear of parole??????????
not every rapists/murders get life sentences you know... many get anywhere from 10-30 years... but they be out in 10 years with good conduct.... that's why the american jail system is sooo fucked up.... they let those faggots lose to commit more crimes... which is why i think they should either give life sentences more liberally or just kill them all... and bout those few people who are wrongly accused... IT WOULD REALLY SUCK to be them but the odds are like what 1 in a million??? besides....hey what can ya do???? nothing in this world is perfect... i'd rather have a person wrongly accused get the death penalty than see a murderer/rapists kill another person....
__________________
Long messages do not equal aggravation of any sort,
rather they reflect nothing more than a response of insight
that should always be read in a matter-of-fact tone.
"Those womyn that seek equality with men, lack determination."
"I beseech you, in the bowels of Christ, think it possible you may be wrong."
-Cromwell
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